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Re: Lister CD8 Diesel
« Reply #60 on: January 11, 2023, 09:12:40 PM »
I can see how that would be very difficult to access without complete dismantling.
Good luck with the piston rings, how are you going to load up this engine to get the rings to bed in well?

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Re: Lister CD8 Diesel
« Reply #61 on: January 12, 2023, 04:51:57 AM »
Yeah it looks like a crankshaft out to get to that wire mesh filter so it stays there. I started to gap the rings but I have 3 days of doctors appointments to deal with so wont be until the weekend now before I get back to it. As for loading it up I have nothing that will do that other than what I did for the little McDonald Super Imperial Diesel Crude Oil engine, a lump of hardwood and made smoke under the flywheels.
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Re: Lister CD8 Diesel
« Reply #62 on: January 12, 2023, 07:47:44 AM »
Hi Cobbadog, good luck at the doctors. A good piece of Aussie hardwood and a very heavy weight ought to do it, should also polish up the flywheel too, try not to set the place on fire from the friction.
There is a guy down here in Tassy selling an unrestored Lister J 4 1/2 petrol engine for $1500, hasn`t been run for several years. I`d like to own it but restoration costs could easily be $1500 or more. I`m thinking $750 but some clown will probably pay him the money and then realize he has no idea how to get it running again or where to get the parts to do so. Sadly it will probably end up in landfill in a few years time.

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Re: Lister CD8 Diesel
« Reply #63 on: January 12, 2023, 10:18:56 AM »
Thanks, the doctors is a usual thing, checking the diabetes to see if I have been a good boy, eye specialist again diabetes and glaucoma, n skin cancer clinic tomorrow paying for all those years working on earth moving equipment long before cabs were fitted in the full sun and no shirt. You get used to it all and is like just another day but a bit different.
Yeah I have some very seasoned hardwood here from our over 100 year old house. It is more like steel then timber, I think if I tried hard enough I could weld the bastard. When I did the McDonald I had some smoke coming off the timber, almost as much as coming out of the McDonald's exhaust. I did have fun do it though. So will do something similar again and make friends with the neighbours again. They should not be bothered they all burn timber fires in winter and we dont so we are even.
$1500 for the Lister J is very hopeful and wish him well for his wishful thinking. Some sellers dont realise the true cost of an engine. For that money I want to hear it running in front of me to value it to a realistic price. If not running it is only scrap value and walk away. Too many times I have seen and heard of buyers paying top dollars for crap scrap believing the seller has told the truth. Cant believe a friend of mine who ot us into this infectious hobby ran a service station, is a mechanic and a good one and also did NRMA road side break downs buys so much broken crap believing bthe sellers.
Old Time Engines in Qld has a lot of parts but since he bought out the Lister parts seller in NSW he has had to increase his prices and some are priced on availability not value, but that is business. He is not running a charity so buying parts, if available are dear.
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Re: Lister CD8 Diesel
« Reply #64 on: January 12, 2023, 11:21:02 AM »
Hi Cobbadog, Diabetes is a bugger, one of my neighbors has it, he is a very fit, healthy 50 something who loves mountain biking. He has recently had several toes amputated, I`m very pleased to say that I saw him back riding his mountain bike yesterday.
I`m lucky with the melanoma issue, I spent the first fifty years of my life in the UK where the sun only shines for a few months a year, guess I`ve got a bit of catching up to do.
My Father in Law had glaucoma, diagnosed in his late forties, still driving in his seventies. Best expert in Australia is Dr. Ivan Goldberg in Macquarie St. Sydney.

I have a mig welder an AC/DC tig welder, oxy/acetylene equipment, stick welder and enough welding rods to rebuild the harbor bridge,  I will happily load the whole lot on my ute and drive to NSW to watch you try to weld wood together!  :laugh:

I messaged the guy with the J 4 1/2 he hasn`t come back to me yet, just another fool who thinks it`s valuable because it`s old, more than enough of these in museums so only of interest to vintage engine buffs like us.

Good luck with the medics,

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Re: Lister CD8 Diesel
« Reply #65 on: January 13, 2023, 05:26:55 AM »
All finished with the quacks. Had a burn'm burn'm (really freezem freezem) session with the skin cancer bloke today. Feel like I've been on a BBQ spit right now. Got to go back as soon as we are back from our holiday in about 3 months. We are not sure how long we will be on the road this time, 6-8 weeks. I have been under a specialist for the eyes and the drops he gets me to use has dropped the pressure by a lot, back down to 21 n 20.

I feel confident that it will strike an arc!  ::)

So tomorrow morning while it is still cool will get back to the gaping of the rings. Some fairly rude, crude and uncouth truckies picked up on that term gaping rings  so best to leave that out of it.
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Re: Lister CD8 Diesel
« Reply #66 on: January 13, 2023, 01:52:37 PM »
You keep track of that eye pressure. and do what the doc says! Its nothing to play with! My son was born with Glaucoma, has had 4 operations, just last month his right Eye was bothering him and had it checked, pressure was 50. He had emergency surgery and is still recovering his sight from that. Enjoy tbe holiday! Here we say vacation😊
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Re: Lister CD8 Diesel
« Reply #67 on: January 14, 2023, 04:32:14 AM »
Poor bugga! I do everything asked of me so since it has come down by around 1/3, I am doing well.

Today got the rings gaped and fitted to the piston. Had a bit of fun cleaning the ring grooves, they looked really good but the oil groove because of the narrow ring being fitted previously was still holding some carbon. I got it all out in the end so I took the time to do the other 3 grooves as well. Next will be fitting the piston and begin the journey of assembly.
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Re: Lister CD8 Diesel
« Reply #68 on: January 14, 2023, 07:01:20 AM »
Hi Cobbadog, glad it went well with the docs, sorry to hear about the crispy BBQ experience, hope it all heals before your road trip.

Hi 38ac, sorry to hear your son has glaucoma, I hope that his surgery was successful and he makes a swift recovery.

Well done Cobbadog on getting the rings sorted, looking forward to a video showing the beast running again.

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Re: Lister CD8 Diesel
« Reply #69 on: January 15, 2023, 10:40:26 AM »
Well the bottom end is all back together this morning with piston in bore, big end done up and external covers back on with new gaskets, fuel pump in place as is the external oil tank. Will tell more and post some pics tomorro, I had to go out and have some fun this afternoon.
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Re: Lister CD8 Diesel
« Reply #70 on: January 15, 2023, 09:46:00 PM »
Forgot I did not have a 4.5" ring compressor so I joined 2 hose clamps to do the job. Then had the fun Of getting the bottom end cap for the big end bearing in and on the bolts. Took ages to get one of the split pins through the hole but finally won that race. Fitted front and rear covers, oil tank and fuel pump.
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Re: Lister CD8 Diesel - HOSE CLAMPS? WHY?
« Reply #71 on: January 15, 2023, 10:26:35 PM »
Cobba, Gentles

Some wood (or gas) to the fire!  ;D ;D ;D

Hose clamps for a few rings. take a look at Amish engeniring: https://listerengine.com/smf/index.php?topic=8320.msg102639#msg102639

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Re: Lister CD8 Diesel
« Reply #72 on: January 16, 2023, 02:44:39 AM »
God bless the Amish!
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Re: Lister CD8 Diesel
« Reply #73 on: January 16, 2023, 03:03:15 AM »
This morning once I had done all the research on various insurances for one of the cars I made it outside. First is a picture of the copper gasket sealant I have used in the past and it works well. I coated the top of the piston with a smear of grease first then sprayed. After coating both sides of the copper gasket and the head I dropped it in place, boy these are heavy heads. I lubed everything in and around the rockers and push rods and I leave the exhaust facing down when not in use. Nest is a close up of the injector and the roller rockers, very high tech for its age. Finally, setting the gap at 0.008" cold as stated by the manual.
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« Reply #74 on: January 16, 2023, 03:15:34 AM »
Next is a nice easy job, setting the rocker gear to 0.008" cold as by the manual. Still cant get past these being roller rockers on a slow speed engine. Fan and top radiator hose connection fitted, fan belt on and adjusted. Fuel tank bracket on which doubles as a cover of the water jacket in the head. This is the side that had all the dirt in it. Blow the whistle, full time for the day.
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