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Resurrection of a Deutz MAH 914, 1952? Lets see! JUST LIKE THAT
« Reply #120 on: September 07, 2022, 02:11:45 PM »
Cobba, Gentles

Thats we are talking about.

Despite I made that mess to the guides - its just money (expensive, BUT...) - Im trying to put back on live a pearl, with history.

The girls that gave me the engine deserve it.

And Im learning. So far I didn't realise the science of materials.

This was (and is) an unknown world.

Found it the hard way? So did the Wright Brothers.

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« Last Edit: September 07, 2022, 02:15:56 PM by sirpedrosa »
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Wating for the Zündfix to fire up.

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Re: Resurrection of a Deutz MAH 914, 1952? Lets see!
« Reply #121 on: September 08, 2022, 10:43:25 PM »
Found it the hard way? So did the Wright Brothers.

I am looking forward to watching you try to get the Deutz to fly!  :laugh:

Bob

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Resurrection of a Deutz MAH 914, 1952? Lets see! PUT THE GERMAN AT THE SKY
« Reply #122 on: September 08, 2022, 11:45:32 PM »
Bob, Gentles

Good ideia Bob. Just give a help making the wings, because engine is not far to turn propeller!

See pic in order to make the Math.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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VP
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Wating for the Zündfix to fire up.

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Re: Resurrection of a Deutz MAH 914, 1952? Lets see!
« Reply #123 on: September 10, 2022, 08:49:46 AM »
Hi Vp, I think that lovely piece of German cast iron is way to heavy to ever get off the ground. Properly geared, it might be adequate to provide a tow launch for a glider. I did a lot of gliding in my youth and always hated the ground tow style launch because I didn`t believe the tow cable would detach and I would end up going nose first into the ground.
Are you hunting Bamfords this weekend?

Bob

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Resurrection of a Deutz MAH 914, 1952? Lets see! FOOT OF #1 ON NECK!
« Reply #124 on: September 10, 2022, 10:57:07 PM »
Bob, Gentles

No Bob, this Saturday #1 put her foot on my neck.

This mounth we have the 3 cars to go to inspection. 1 is done. And today changed 220 000km oil to my Grand Scenic.

And the switch panel on steering wheel of the Magane of the #1 had malfuntion, and had to buy a new one (150€), and switch them.

Therefore, maybe next weekend, depending on weather.

Keep tuned.
VP
« Last Edit: September 12, 2022, 01:15:31 PM by sirpedrosa »
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Wating for the Zündfix to fire up.

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Resurrection of a Deutz MAH 914, 1952? Lets see! CRANKCASE WITH PRIMARY
« Reply #125 on: September 11, 2022, 11:43:55 PM »
Gentles,

Yesterday give the German a get wash and put drying with blower.

Today (after dinner - yami) gave a coat of primary to prevent rust while process is ongoing.

A few pics for the show.

Cheers
VP
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Wating for the Zündfix to fire up.

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Re: Resurrection of a Deutz MAH 914, 1952? Lets see!
« Reply #126 on: September 12, 2022, 07:04:38 AM »
Very nice work as usual. You must by now be starting to feel as if you are making good progress.
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Re: Resurrection of a Deutz MAH 914, 1952? Lets see!
« Reply #127 on: September 12, 2022, 12:05:03 PM »
Hi VP, nice work as always, can`t wait to see the look on your face when you finally get this 70 year old running.

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Resurrection of a Deutz MAH 914, 1952? Lets see! MAINTENANCE AND NEW BITS
« Reply #128 on: September 12, 2022, 12:39:21 PM »
Cobba, Bob, Gentles

So far my face is just worry!

My expetations are high BUT some parts - mainly those are not cast iron - are very pitted.

Morning at car inspection centre, and new oil rings and roller balls for governor.

2 pics for the enthusiast

Cheers
VP
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Wating for the Zündfix to fire up.

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Resurrection of a Deutz MAH 914, 1952? Lets see! QUESTION FOR MEMBERS
« Reply #129 on: September 12, 2022, 11:36:02 PM »
Gentles,

Take a look at these pictures, and tell me if the bearing goes in or out of the block.

And if it goes to the inside, if it is necessary to remove the pin that holds it?

Or if this pin is a bearing position limiter?

Any help will be apreciated.

Cheers
VP
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Wating for the Zündfix to fire up.

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Re: Resurrection of a Deutz MAH 914, 1952? Lets see!
« Reply #130 on: September 13, 2022, 06:34:59 AM »
I feel the bearings will pull out of the crankcase. Can you see or feel if the bearing sits against that pin or not? Can you measure the OD of the new bearings and then the size of the oil seal and then the ID of where they sits. If it is close and judged to be an interference fit then pull the old bearings outwards.
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« Reply #131 on: September 13, 2022, 10:55:24 PM »
Hi VP, I agree with Cobbadog, the bearings should pull out of the casing. It is hard to tell from the photo but is that a tapered roller bearing? If it is, the end float/bearing clearance would probably be determined by the length of the shaft and adjusted by adding/removing shims/gaskets under the bearing cover. I suspect the pin is there to stop the bearing race from falling into the casing during assembly or just an access point to allow you to lock up the shaft while tightening the nut on the shaft end.


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Resurrection of a Deutz MAH 914, 1952? Lets see! ROLLER BEARING AND FUEL FILTER
« Reply #132 on: September 13, 2022, 11:37:51 PM »
Cobba, Bob, Gentles

Many thanks for your help.

I have the same point of view.... BUT. Lost some confidence with that "screwed" valve guides, and this German is not helping either.

Moreover it has UNC and other triky thread pitches!

Therefore it ends up to be not straight thru.

I'll try to jig the roller bearing out... and off course the liner too.

(I'm a nerd whom the word strip down is intended to be till the tiniest bolt)

Today I manage to get fuel filter - a compatible off course - and still be a compatible no longer made - its a NOS (felt instead of paper cartridge) in a very ancient filter store (here is the site: https://www.acel-autoacessorios.com).

Its compatible to MANN BFU707.

A few pics to joy.

Cheers
VP

« Last Edit: September 13, 2022, 11:45:24 PM by sirpedrosa »
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Wating for the Zündfix to fire up.

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Resurrection of a Deutz MAH 914, 1952? Lets see! PAINT ARRIVED AND HANDLE DOG
« Reply #133 on: September 15, 2022, 11:38:12 PM »
Gentles

Managed to get color from local dealer, and made decent dog for start handle.

Cheers
VP
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Wating for the Zündfix to fire up.

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« Reply #134 on: September 16, 2022, 11:39:50 AM »
I do like that Red you have chosen. What is the other colour you are applying please? Do you haev a relative that races in MotoGP?
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