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« on: March 22, 2020, 04:45:44 PM »
How goes it?  (Hawaii slang.)

Wow!  Would you have believed all this a month ago?  When we get back to the new ground zero what are you going to change in your life?  Any prophecies about what the new ground zero holds for us?

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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2020, 07:13:16 PM »
Pretty close to South African slang which would be "howzit" [how is it (going)?]

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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2020, 07:47:41 PM »
I tend to say "hows it hanging?" saying it to women meant I never got dates!
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2020, 10:51:46 PM »
Here in oz now there are 1300 cases. Friday there were abou 700.
Airport is supposedly closed but checking the arrival board at Sydney, there were 9 planes  in one hour coming in from os. There is not even amy temp checkimg far as i know , just supposed to self isolate.

Schools in most states are still open but there are strong calls call to close them and likley more will be this week . Yesterday non essential services were told to close, restaurants,  clubs, casinos, shops and all sport is pretty much cancelled.

Supermarkets were recovering but this has started another run on them straight away.
There is a lot of things that cant be had in supermarkets that the smaller places have loads of. Bog roll is not one of them but it is coming through but snapped up.

I think we have fked up here for the usual reasons of political correctness.  We still had chinese student pouring in here couple of weeks ago because we didn't want to offend  china and the unis wanted the millions in fees. While things are being done and quite severly, should have got in early and done it weeks ago.

The media need shooting here and thats all there is to it. The reporting is literally hysterical at times even from the little i bother to watch.  Is played up and dramatised beyond belief. On one hand authorities atr saying remain calm and the very people reporting that are trying to scare the living shit out of everyone all day and night.

My disdain for the media grows constantly. They are non essential and ought to be shut down that is for sure. They are 90% behind the panic buying.

I think this is going to be a blood bath for small businesses here. Fires killed a lot of places, they were gone about a month and now we have the Woo hoo flu.  Young friend leased arestaurant about a year ago and was doing well till about november with the fires. If hes shut for a few months.... i cant see how he will be able to pay the lease or anything else.

One thing is very widly agreed upon here, people are going to keep much more provisions in their house from now on. I guess all the prepper types feel as smug as all get out.  I dont see anyone starving though but early days yet.

One thing that has already come from this in my mind is how it pfoves what a complete and utter lievand scam this climate change bullshit is. Been dropped like a hot potatoe and people are suddenly far more concerned with wiping their arse than the planet getting .002oc warmer. I rhink now people will have a wakeup call to what really does matter.

We have plenty of food for now, thousands of litres of water, fuel and power both solar and generated to keep the fridge running while there is something left in them anyway.
Got my solar water heater conroller running so hot showers as well if the sun doesent go away longer than 4 days at a time.

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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2020, 06:52:03 AM »
It will be interesting to see how it pans out here at the Bottom of the World in NZ . . .

We have lots of traffic with Asia and were a bit slow to close borders but are taking the drastic measure of effectively shutting the country down for a month and telling all "non-essential" industries to just shut up shop and citizens to stay home

It may be that our peak will be small-ish as a result and that this measure will allow our health system to cope rather than collapse?  That's the theory anyway

My own industry (water supplies to farmers, effectively) is lobbying to get labelled as "essential"

I guess time will tell on all fronts

I'm sure glad not to be an apartment-dweller in a big city with a couple of small kids - and my sympathies to any such  :(

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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2020, 06:57:52 AM »
How goes it?  (Hawaii slang.)

Wow!  Would you have believed all this a month ago?  When we get back to the new ground zero what are you going to change in your life?  Any prophecies about what the new ground zero holds for us?

Much as I hate to predict it, Casey, I suspect most folks will get straight back onto the (often dumb & pointless) shit they have always done

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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2020, 09:44:04 AM »

I see there is a revolt against China starting. I have beennrelatively supportive of chinese products but not any more. If there is one country that will benifit from all this and increase their power to further manipulate the world it will be them.

The only way to stop it is not buy their products.
Not easy at all but I'll certainly be looking much harder for alternatives.

No one will ever convince me that Trump wasn't right all along to try and get US industry and manufacturing going again. Maybe now some of the bitching bedwetters will wake up to the value of that in every western country this plauge is fking over.

I hope there is some way to hold the chinese gubbermint accontable and exact  repatriations from the corrupt bastards that lied to the world if not engineered this whole thing in the first place.

One thing is for sure, the world will be different after this. All the leftie do gooders and their open borders, globalisation climate change bullshit will meet with a lot of disdain and won't be accepted as it was before. If things go downhill, once any civil unrest occours it will likley spread around the world and people fed up with yhe corruption and mismanagement of many gubbermints and the leftard bs wont be putting up with it any longer.

Where  are all the greenwashed that were still ramming the "climate emergency " crap down our throats are fortnight ago?  Is the emergency suddenly over or was the world suddenly shown what a real emergency andbthreat looks like?
Seems to me what we are seeing now is exactly what their zero emissions world would be.

A lot will stay the same if things dont get too bad but a lot will change too.
Unfortunately humans are really pathetic about learning from history and not making the same mistakes. Greed sees to a lot of that.

Its very hard to fathom the economic effects of all this.  Oz has a LOT of small biz and so many of them are going to be in severe strife especially seeing so many have been weakend to begin with.

This  isn't going to be over for a long time yet.

Funny, I am always superstitious with new decades and 5 years. Most of the bad things including the very worst things in my life have happened in a xxx0 or a xxx5 year.
People including professionals have told me its just co incidence but how many co incidences does it take to be considered significant and more than just bad luck??

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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2020, 05:38:42 PM »
I stand corrected.  Howz-it? is the correct spelling and pronunciation guide.  It's not easy being a 5 star haole.

I'm sorry glort but the biggest struggle / challenge facing human activity in the long run is still climate change and ocean rise.  That's the 50 year problem.  Of course if something really serious comes along in the meantime it will steal our short sighted interest for the while but having water up to ankles while you take a much needed bathroom break will come back to the front of your needs and wants. 

(sarcasm alert)  If anything will help countries be more open and transparent it will be a racist response to China.  (straight talk alert)  If you remember dismissal and hiding the truth about the threat of C-19 was the track first adopted by Trump.  As a libratard I think this experience will bring home how interdependent we all are.  I also think there will be some tighter bridles put on the market to take care that the whole planet does not become so dependent on one area as we have been pushed into with China - greed is dangerous.  But mikenash is probably the most soothiest (as in soothsayer) of us all so far.  We're born, we shit, we die.  But change?  That takes effort.

We start testing this week on the big island.  Is it paradise or are we going to protect our tourist trade?  We're back down to three as of yesterday.  The population is about 185,000.

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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2020, 10:33:55 PM »

I'm sorry glort but the biggest struggle / challenge facing human activity in the long run is still climate change and ocean rise. 

Yeah well good luck with trying to sell that from now on. I think that barrow of manure just got a whole load harder to push up a much steeper hill.
I keep hearing about all the deaths Globull warming will cause but I'm yet to hear ONE Clear and reasonable explanation how all these people are actual going to die and what from? Then again, doesn't matter because the greenwashed and lefties have no sense or truth or honesty and will say anything at all to promote their agenda as has been proven and demonstrated endlessly.

The more sensational they get, the less they are believed. What are the saying now, End of the world by 2030? 
Might just be but not from Globull climate crap that's for sure.

The vocal green party here that was on the TV every night during the bushfires pointing the finger, whinging about not enough being done, calling fire fighters wife bashers and generally making themselves more despised even to previous supporters, have gone VERY quiet now. Not a peep out of them as there is nothing to blame in their agenda for this although they did have a run at it early on and got smacked down from all sides.

Being one trick ponys they have NOTHING to offer in this crisis and have no leadership, policy's or initiatives.  They are totally and utterly redundant and useless. They have already lost the majority of their following and sympathy over their pathetic accusations with the bush fires, the minute they stick their moronic heads up again they are going to get the lambasting they deserve.
They want to run the  country and save the world yet they display NO ability to lead or have a clue about anything.

Even the Highly left Biased opposition is taking charge of the states it runs and working with the ruling federal party to get shit done. They have even handed their decision making powers over to the gubbermint so they can get things done quicker and more effectively.  Not a fan of their ideals but full credit to them where it's due. They have made some tough and wise decisions for the right reasons. Some are saying they are a bit over board, I think they are 100% correct to do things early rather than late.  At least they are stepping up and doing what they can.

The green whingers.... well they are probably hiding under their inner city beds somewhere cowering in fear because no one has heard a peep from them nor have they offered anything in the way of solutions or guidance in weeks.

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We start testing this week on the big island.  Is it paradise or are we going to protect our tourist trade?


Our Gubbermint was hell bent on protecting our tourist trade till it became clear even those in the industry were screaming to shut the airports and borders down.

We are supposed to have closed the borders but I can see on the airport arrivals board that the planes are still coming. Excuses have been made this is Aussies returning home or Cargo.  I'm pretty damn sure that the 4 planes From Kula lumpur that came into melbourne yesterday morning and another 2 into Sydney weren't  all Aussies coming home nor Cargo.  Not sure what's going on but something stinks. Also still planes coming from china and every where else. How this has escaped the media and everyone else's attention I don't know.
I have an app that tells you the arrivals for all the Oz airports and departures too.

Not exactly secret info or hard to find.

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If anything will help countries be more open and transparent it will be a racist response to China.  (straight talk alert)  If you remember dismissal and hiding the truth about the threat of C-19 was the track first adopted by Trump.

Of Course!
Have to get Racism and Trump in there somewhere to blame don't we?  I mean racism is the Term for anything the leftards don't want to talk about.  Slap the racism label on it to make the other side feel guilty and stop talking about things that don't push the leftist Narrative.  You can set your watch by it.  The old adage of Aussies betting on which fly will take off from the fence first would now considered racist in the mind of the leftie whingers.

This is going to be another casualty of the post Woo hoo flu era. ( is that racist? I certainly hope so!)
The reality check is going to bring a lot of people back to earth with all this PC crap. When people in their thousands are dying, No one is going to give a shit what precious snowflake they offend  or be bothered choosing their words carefully. Not that some  ever gave a damn about hurting the feelings of the Fairy floss girly brigade anyway.

The Libtard lefties are now even sooking saying calling it the China flu is Racist. No, It's FACT no matter how much the bedwetters want to hide that. There is a YT vid showing all the same leftie news organisations calling it the China Corona Virus as late as last week.
Yep, do as we say not as we do.

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We're back down to three as of yesterday.  The population is about 185,000.


Going exponential here every day.
Of Course they did just let 3000 people walk off a cruise ship last week and have now found about 30 of them have tested positive. How many  others they have passed this onto god knows.  That screw up alone could be responsible in the end for thousands catching this here.
How customs or health officials let this happen is beyond belief but typical gubbermint incompetence as happens everywhere.   

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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2020, 01:39:25 AM »

I'm sorry glort but the biggest struggle / challenge facing human activity in the long run is still climate change and ocean rise. 

Yeah well good luck with trying to sell that from now on. I think that barrow of manure just got a whole load harder to push up a much steeper hill.
I keep hearing about all the deaths Globull warming will cause but I'm yet to hear ONE Clear and reasonable explanation how all these people are actual going to die and what from? Then again, doesn't matter because the greenwashed and lefties have no sense or truth or honesty and will say anything at all to promote their agenda as has been proven and demonstrated endlessly.

The more sensational they get, the less they are believed. What are the saying now, End of the world by 2030? 
Might just be but not from Globull climate crap that's for sure.

The vocal green party here that was on the TV every night during the bushfires pointing the finger, whinging about not enough being done, calling fire fighters wife bashers and generally making themselves more despised even to previous supporters, have gone VERY quiet now. Not a peep out of them as there is nothing to blame in their agenda for this although they did have a run at it early on and got smacked down from all sides.

Being one trick ponys they have NOTHING to offer in this crisis and have no leadership, policy's or initiatives.  They are totally and utterly redundant and useless. They have already lost the majority of their following and sympathy over their pathetic accusations with the bush fires, the minute they stick their moronic heads up again they are going to get the lambasting they deserve.
They want to run the  country and save the world yet they display NO ability to lead or have a clue about anything.

Even the Highly left Biased opposition is taking charge of the states it runs and working with the ruling federal party to get shit done. They have even handed their decision making powers over to the gubbermint so they can get things done quicker and more effectively.  Not a fan of their ideals but full credit to them where it's due. They have made some tough and wise decisions for the right reasons. Some are saying they are a bit over board, I think they are 100% correct to do things early rather than late.  At least they are stepping up and doing what they can.

The green whingers.... well they are probably hiding under their inner city beds somewhere cowering in fear because no one has heard a peep from them nor have they offered anything in the way of solutions or guidance in weeks.

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We start testing this week on the big island.  Is it paradise or are we going to protect our tourist trade?


Our Gubbermint was hell bent on protecting our tourist trade till it became clear even those in the industry were screaming to shut the airports and borders down.

We are supposed to have closed the borders but I can see on the airport arrivals board that the planes are still coming. Excuses have been made this is Aussies returning home or Cargo.  I'm pretty damn sure that the 4 planes From Kula lumpur that came into melbourne yesterday morning and another 2 into Sydney weren't  all Aussies coming home nor Cargo.  Not sure what's going on but something stinks. Also still planes coming from china and every where else. How this has escaped the media and everyone else's attention I don't know.
I have an app that tells you the arrivals for all the Oz airports and departures too.

Not exactly secret info or hard to find.

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If anything will help countries be more open and transparent it will be a racist response to China.  (straight talk alert)  If you remember dismissal and hiding the truth about the threat of C-19 was the track first adopted by Trump.

Of Course!
Have to get Racism and Trump in there somewhere to blame don't we?  I mean racism is the Term for anything the leftards don't want to talk about.  Slap the racism label on it to make the other side feel guilty and stop talking about things that don't push the leftist Narrative.  You can set your watch by it.  The old adage of Aussies betting on which fly will take off from the fence first would now considered racist in the mind of the leftie whingers.

This is going to be another casualty of the post Woo hoo flu era. ( is that racist? I certainly hope so!)
The reality check is going to bring a lot of people back to earth with all this PC crap. When people in their thousands are dying, No one is going to give a shit what precious snowflake they offend  or be bothered choosing their words carefully. Not that some  ever gave a damn about hurting the feelings of the Fairy floss girly brigade anyway.

The Libtard lefties are now even sooking saying calling it the China flu is Racist. No, It's FACT no matter how much the bedwetters want to hide that. There is a YT vid showing all the same leftie news organisations calling it the China Corona Virus as late as last week.
Yep, do as we say not as we do.

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We're back down to three as of yesterday.  The population is about 185,000.


Going exponential here every day.
Of Course they did just let 3000 people walk off a cruise ship last week and have now found about 30 of them have tested positive. How many  others they have passed this onto god knows.  That screw up alone could be responsible in the end for thousands catching this here.
How customs or health officials let this happen is beyond belief but typical gubbermint incompetence as happens everywhere.


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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2020, 06:51:22 AM »
We have just passed the 400 infections mark, no deaths as yet, and are going into lockdown from midnight on Thursday.  This will last for 21 days and only essential services will be operating.  People will only be allowed to leave their houses to seek medical help, buy food, draw cash and other emergencies.  Not looking forward to it.  There is going to be an ungodly rush on the supermarkets and fuel stations in the next 2 days.  Luckily, I am rural and self sufficient with water and power.

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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2020, 07:52:20 AM »

There has been talk of the same here only with people being allowed to go to work.
I think it's better to do it early as possible than have to do it when half the country is infected.

Mrs went to the supermarket on the way home last night to pick up some milk and meat. Came home with quite a bit of short dated Fresh stuff they were selling cheap. Had some nice Pies for lunch today with  still 3 days to run and she got a few other things similar.  We have at least 2 days from that alone without touching anything else in the cupboard. I said to the mrs maybe she bought too much and other people may have wanted it. She said they were pointing it out to people saying it would be thrown out if not sold and marking it right down on the spot.  I thought strange seeing the pies had 3 days to run and some coleslaw and salad had 4? Anyway, we'll have that and keep other stuff that will last longer.

I'm surprised in a way but not in another there HASN'T  been a run on fuel here. Then again,  with the initial shutdowns yesterday and 88,000 people supposedly put out of work, I guess there isn't a lot of places to go with every thing bar essential services shut down.  No pubs and clubs or anything else that's not vital.  Interestingly our big hardware chain seems to have closed the retail section but is promoting it's trade sections in the same buildings are open and ready for business.  Not sure how that works.

Daughter is home with a complication with a tooth extraction she has had a week and isn't sure if she will be going back to work.  Boss spoke to her today and thinks they will be open because as an electronics and white goods retailer they seem to be classed essential.
I said with everyone at home watching netflix, if the TV goes on the fritz and they can't buy another one, could be anarchy.
Then again, what Home doesen't have 3 TV's now? We have 2 perfectly good large sets I can't remember when we did turn them on the last time.

Quite a bit of food has been rationed.  Daughter went out  yesterday to get some ingredients she wanted to use to make lunch. One was a tin of Corn and the other a tin of beetroot.  She was told at the checkout only one canned food item per customer.  She apologised and said she was sorry didn't realise and would put it back. She didn't notice the sign had now included tin food.   She said I'll take the beetroot because I'm making a salad and I know dad likes that better than corn so I'll have the beetroot too.
Woman looked around and whipped both cans through and said to my daughter, thank you for understanding and being so nice about it, you have no idea how many people have abused me today. she said so many people have come through with mountains of stuff and then get irate when they are told they can't have it all.  She pointed to a security gaurd and said I have been here 8 years and we have never had a gaurd before but he's earning his keep I can tell you.

Amazing.
I hope they don't start limiting tinned pet food.  We often seem to have more of that than food for us. Only 2 cats and a dog now but eat like horses and they aren't fat either. Often we get a load when I am with the Mrs and I always wonder if people think WE are eating it with the amount we get.  Go through 4 tins a day every day.

I'm semi Rural and not too worried either.
If the world stops I can easily make power to keep the fridge running, the TV and computer on so we are fine.  The recent rain means I have 8000, litres of water in the tanks and I think we have enough food for 3 weeks although obviously milk and bread will run out.
We have a LOT of market gardens around us which we drove round the other day and I said to the Mrs if things get bad, we have the food bowl right at our door.  Not real happy they seem to be growing more Cabbage and Cauliflower than anything else but anyway.

Mrs pointed out the Hamburger on the hoof and said I wonder how many of them will disappear if things get bad?  I said dunno but they would be a real bugger to try and stuff in a shopping bag that's for sure.  :laugh:

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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2020, 03:21:55 AM »
Hmmmmm; How do people die from ocean rising?  When the land mass reduces by 10 or 15% and the hordes of people come onto your world cause their's is gone people are going to die.  When people come onto your world knowing that your unsustainable life style is what accelerated it people are going to die.  You might think we have a population problem now.

But this is all rhetoric.  We need this pandemic to get controlled by May 1st because I want to jump on an airliner, burn about 55 gallons of petroleum based fuel on my way back to Seattle to catch up on business.  Let's get serious here. 

Besides I just stuffed myself on salmon and am nodding off so goodbye.
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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2020, 08:52:03 AM »
   the hordes of people come onto your world cause their's is gone people are going to die.

You mean like the Millions that Invaded Europe a while back?
That was all encouraged by the lefty do gooders that wanted open boarders and now are screaming for them to be closed.

All that mass Immigration worked out real well for Europe Didn't it?

I won't even get into the well debunked sea level rising bullshit.

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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2020, 03:44:24 PM »
glort you might find this interesting. https://www.resignation.info/list?q=Australia+

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