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« Reply #120 on: April 10, 2020, 02:52:22 AM »

I wish we still had little Mom and Pop's grocery stores like that around here. I remember them from when I was a kid. Everything here now is 100,000+ sq/ft mega stores. Takes an hour just to make your way through the place.

Living on the far edge of the rat race, we do have a number of places like that round here.  They aren't what I'd call small, there is one place that has about 12 people working in the Deli alone but they certainly aren't any supermarket and the owners are there putting out fruit and walking round the place all the time.

The place sells fruit and veg, has a deli, bakery, great variety of dairy, a tiny butchery and a groceries section.  It's not big but it has everything.  The place is always busy and just has a great atmosphere about it.  Unlike a supermarket, it's a place you like to go.

There are many speciality places including one that is a very 30's? period styled general store/ Milkbar.  Sells gelato, cakes, small deli and Dairy like cheeses etc, has a Cafe up the back, cooks meat pies on the premises which are fantastic, has sweets laid out the old fashioned way ( and taste like they used to instead of all the same!) and again, has a great feel to it.

I tell people all the time, you could eat out here for 3 months and never go to the same place twice.


The supermarkets...... I do marvel and despair at them.  There is one in the main town which I reckon MUST be 3 acres in floor area.  I know how big my own place is and clearly this supermarket is bigger.  People think I have a huge block which it is in contrast to normal suburbia but you could literally build a housing estate inside this supermarket and still have larger than normal back yards.
I hate going there.  The endless rows of bland, flat, contrast-less light gives me headaches and head spins in 15 Min flat.

They have about 30 Checkouts.  up to 3 of which are open at any given time.  Plus the self serve of course because not the Fkers are too cheap to even take your money off you.  I hate that but am forced to use it rather than wait at least 20 Min to get out the manned checkouts.  Of course not being every trained as a check out chick I'm not very good at it and often find things I missed scanning when I get home.  I'm sure a trained person wouldn't make those mistakes and cost the supermarkets lost revenue like that..... Not that they haven't already crunched the numbers and decided to go with it rather than pay someone anyway.  ::)

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« Reply #121 on: April 10, 2020, 03:20:34 AM »
Was expecting empty shelves.

About the only thing still hard to get here is Bog roll.
There were a few bare sections before but now it's all pretty much there.  Rice was another section with bare shelves as was sugar and flour but they are back now in the supermarkets with a 2 pk limit.  The smaller shops didn't seem to run out of anything. Pasta was also cleaned out the supermarkets but the fruit market/ Gourmet place had heaps which was a much better product with better sauces.  Smaller family manufacturers rather than multinational food giants churning out product as fast as they can.  Normally Mrs makes the sauce from my tomatoes anyway which I prefer to anything else. Her fresh pasta when she makes it is something else again.

Easter here is pretty Bleak.
There are STRICT stay at home laws in place. you are not allowed to go out except for work, food, medical attention or other emergency reasons. Even the food and medical is restricted to your own area and the cops are having a field day getting their numbers up revenue raising with $1000 Fines they are handing out fast as they can.

The was a case earlier in the week where they Pinged a Girl who was out learning to drive with her mother for not observing lockdown laws.
I think that was overturned on public outcry.  Driving in your car and not getting out poses a danger to no one although I AM able to go to the servo and get fuel.
You are STRICTLY not permitted to go to your holiday home.  The highways must be completely bare instead of Crowded.

While I am in favour of lockdown, I think many things are going way too far.  People driving round with family members for a change of scenery for an hour or 2 is not going to do anything to spread the problem nor is going to your holiday home and holing up if you just go between there and your home. Visiting Relatives is strictly Verboten, a very appropriate term under the circumstances.

Getting too over the top with this is just going to piss people off and make them more inclined to go out and want to socialise.

You are also not allowed to go sit in a park on your own or with another person atm.  Exercise however IS permitted.  Don't ask me to work that out and I won't mention that everyone will be packing back into buses and trains on Tuesday morning. I spose the Gubbermint wants all the revenue it can get as as they own the trains and a lot of the buses, that's a revenue stream they desperately need now so get priority over the health concerns. Still planes flying all about even though most states are supposedly locked down and you are supposed to self isolate once you arrive for a fortnight.


We had a Plane from Wuhan of all places fly into Sydney on Wednesday night supposedly loaded with medical supplies.  Given other countries have found these supplies infected, faulty and useless, I see no point why we let the plane in here at  all.  Lot of other people aren't happy about it either.  We had plenty of supplies till hoards of Chinese Locust swept through in January and cleaned us out of a range of medical supplies.  Probably took the good ones we had and have sent us back their shit to try and look like they are helping out. 


They are saying things are getting much better here but this is about when our winter starts. I expect the cases of CCP flue to go up because anyone that has the sniffles will be a Chine flu sufferer. They are also saying the threat won't be over till pretty much late spring/ start of summer. I don't know how they think people that are out of work and Businesses to survive that long.

I think they should be by the end of this month starting to pull back.  It's not so bad for a lot of people let the old, frail Sickos like me look after themselves and stay isolated rather than try and protect everyone.

I am glad to read Boris is getting better.  Had he keeled over then I would say the rest of us were well Fked if all the attention and treatments he would get wouldn't work.
Wonder if they gave him the anti Malaria Drug?

I bet they tried everything they could think of they knew wouldn't kill him.

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« Reply #122 on: April 23, 2020, 09:51:01 PM »
google it, it's big news.

Australian businessman Clive Palmer says his foundation has purchased 32,900,000 million doses of hydroxychloroquine,

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« Reply #123 on: April 24, 2020, 12:46:27 AM »

That's a lot of doses for a Country of 25M people. Hopefully he's intending it for the people of oz and not the Chinese or Indonesians etc.
I think if he didn't offer it here first he'll have to find somewhere else to live pretty quick.

I don't think that will be a problem with old Clive. He is very patriotic and it's a shame he got no where at all in the last election.  He would have shaken things up and made some hard decisions and got this place where it should be and where everyone is now wanting it to be. Far more independent and self reliant.

These Non conformists that always have the endless shit put on them ALWAYS turn out to be right in the end. The more upset their statements cause, the more precisely correct they turn out to be which is probably why the whingers and bed wetters get so damn up set with them.

Want to upset a lefty, just tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth and watch them go into melt down.

It would surprise me less if this stuff does work than if it does not.  Would be REALLY interesting to know what they gave Boris Johnson when he was crook.

I wonder where he got this stuff or it is like an advanced purchase / contract for it's manufacture? From what I read india does a lot of this and they didn't want to sell it to Trump as the position was they wanted it for their own people.  Maybe clive has contracted a Pharma co to produce it for him here? Clive would probably be  saying " Well how hard is this to make? Can't I just buy a factory and the equipment and you make it here?

Maybe not but least he's doing something to try and end this here at least.

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« Reply #124 on: April 24, 2020, 05:53:48 PM »
I would urge you to be careful working with synthetic drugs (most prescription drugs are synthetic) as they are usually extremely strong when compared to what humans have consumed up until the last 75 years.  Just be a bit careful.

My personal physician (I belong to a huge HMO so please read the delusion of "personal physician" with the tablespoon of salt it deserves) tried to start me on statins (SP?).  I regularly test in 160s for total cholesterol so I was curious about the advice.  "On average, statins will give you three more years of life."  As we talked I learned that was "on average".  The discussion became almost heated as I explained that I was not average and suggested she might review what "averages" really meant.  I'm not on statins and she got promoted.  Life is interesting.  I didn't inquire about the medical ethics of prescribing drugs for situations that were not investigated during the tests for licensing.

Hey!  We're up to near 30 active cases on the big island with a total of around 60 confirmed but many have moved on through the 14 day isolation program.  Did I mention the McDonalds that had 18 cases and public health didn't disclose it for three days.  It's a block from a retirement center and coffee at Mickey Ds was an afternoon ritual.  The third world is alive and well.

So any lasting changes spotted or conjured as of yet?  I'm surprised, until I think about it, that domestic violence is up.  Any good news or thoughts?
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« Reply #125 on: April 24, 2020, 09:56:13 PM »
Casey, there are obvious benefits to living on an island

Our small country could possibly be one of the first to "eliminate" the disease (apparently "eliminate" is a technical term, different to "eradicate") if we're lucky, maybe

Perhaps like yours, tourism is a big part of our economy - the single biggest earner last year - and has gone from hero to zero now of course.  People are suggesting a couple of novel solutions:

As soon as Australia gets the virus under control we should extend our "bubble" to include our neighbours - so we can have domestic tourism/travel

We should sell visas to our Safe Haven to the ultra rich for tens of millions of $$ each . . . I keep hearing stories of ultra rich folks who fear global apocalypses and already have underground bunker/mansions in rural NZ and who keep the jet on standby with the engines idling and bags packed 24/7 just in case.  Sadly, I haven't seen one myself . . .

Sadly-er, I have several people in my extended family who are social workers.  Yes, there is a rise in violence.  And there is, and will be, a rise in hunger/child poverty - a tragedy and a national disgrace in a country of plenty, especially plenty of food

A nominal individual who represents the statistics might be a small brown child of, say, ten, living with his mother & siblings in inadequate accommodation where the male in the house is probably not his father, is probably an occasionally violent drunk or methamphetamine user, and the poor wee kid's only escape, normally, was going to school where he was safe and fed and where kind people in the community would find him a pair of shoes or a warm top if he needed one.  Now they're all stuck at home with "dad"

So, yes, we are seeing an increase in domestic violence

It makes me sound like a bleeding-heart liberal, but it gives me the shits that rich folks will come through all this just fine, while poor folks will have hungry kids and will lose their jobs

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« Reply #126 on: April 25, 2020, 06:01:01 PM »
We're going big city.  We have finally gotten someone into the hospital with C-19.  I knew we could do it.  I did go to lunch yesterday.  We were masked and not as at ease as normal.  This is going to be a long march.

Hungry kids and infirm old people.  The first victims of rough times.  I'm not so down on the rich.  These moments are one of the reasons folks work towards wealth.  It's the high numbers of people that don't even start to get to a position of "comfort" that concern me.  Let's listen to some new approaches to wealth distribution that don't divide us into a few super winners and masses of heart breaking losers.


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« Reply #127 on: May 05, 2020, 04:14:27 PM »
Flight from Honolulu to Seattle May 1st.

No Zombies spotted but I think I'm taking a large braid of garlic next trip.

The big island of Hawaii is down to 11 active cases and the person that went to the hospital escaped the next day.
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