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WVO / Methanol
« on: October 04, 2019, 10:34:19 PM »

Anyone ever blend WVO with Methanol instead of gasoline?
Say... 75% WVO and 25% Methanol.

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Re: WVO / Methanol
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2019, 07:10:23 AM »
I guess it will blend somewhat, since methanol is used in the glycerin wash process.  But why not gasoline, which is a lot cheaper then methanol  (in my area)

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Re: WVO / Methanol
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2019, 03:21:05 PM »
I guess it will blend somewhat, since methanol is used in the glycerin wash process.  But why not gasoline, which is a lot cheaper then methanol  (in my area)

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Re: WVO / Methanol
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2019, 12:41:40 PM »

Meth and Veg are insoluble. At least without a catalyst like KOH or Naoh.... such as used in Biodiesel production..... which is what you could do.

It's not rocket science and you don't as most in the bio game will carry on about, have to make perfect Bio. If you are running it in an engine that can take straight oil, then it can take low conversion Bio.
Mind you, this won't give you the volume of oil plus meth, for the most part the meth is lost unless you go to recovery processes that aren't worth it.

If you want to use the meth as fuel itself then you would be better mixing it with Petrol.  I'd mix it lightly though as the stoichiometric mixtures for petrol and meth are very different and unless you adjust the fuel system on a petrol engine you will be running lean.

I would also not put it near any engine that wasn't going to be run dry and sit for even days.  Either use it all up or empty it out and flush the fuel system with petrol... prefrably with a bit of 2 stroke added for good measure to offset potential corrosion issues.

You can always mix a cup of WVO and meth to see the results for yourself. Even if you mix them up they will separate very quickly.

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Re: WVO / Methanol
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2019, 08:08:32 PM »

thanks Glort,
Good to hear from you again.
I just scrapped my Biodiesel reactor so BioD is not an option. As many have found out, it's messy, time consuming, uses chemicals too dangerous for my residential space, and has a messy waste stream (methanol/glycerin mix).

What about this idea, ... when I add a water injection system to my Listeroid, perhaps adding Meth to the water would be a good combustion and cleaning additive. I have heard of many people running a meth water mix in their turbo diesel trucks.
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Re: WVO / Methanol
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2019, 09:17:13 PM »
I've been runing methanol in my WI system, but only in winter as an antifreeze. Runs great, that might be a good way to use your methanol.

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Re: WVO / Methanol
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2019, 10:02:03 PM »
I have found that water meth is not only a great power booster, it also cleans engines out really well. I have no theroy as to why meth in the mix makes it such a better cleaner but it clearly does. You will save fuel with the water meth because the meth is a fuel in itself so will replace some of the diesel on a stationary type engine.

Now i know wher the left over meth came from.   :laugh:

Never really worried about the meth and caustic making bio. Certainly treated them with respect and made the bio in an open shed but never had any problems at all.