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Earth Hour
« on: March 30, 2019, 10:15:03 AM »

Half way through earth hour here which means The Kiwis have had it and the rest of the world are still about to.

I did my bit, put on all the lights out the front and the back and I have a LOT of lights out there. Good job it's blowing a gale out there tonight or I could have had the student pilots from the local airport 3 Km away trying to do touch and goes in the back yard and down the drive way.

Never let it be said I don't do my bit for stupid and moronic causes.  :laugh:

Had I remembered this afternoon, I would have done more and put a few extra lights out. I went through town this morning and while waiting at the crossing for some poor old digger I was wondering If I should get out and carry to the other side,  saw a sign saying the fairy lights in the trees down the center of the road would be switched off between 8:30 and 9:30  to support earth hour.
Oh please!  ::)  ::)  ::)

Really shows the mind numbing stupidity of this garbage.
They will have every other municipal building lit up like Christmas, all night Including the show ground as they have for the last week in preparation for the local show they are setting up for and be burning probably hundreds of KW hours per night over all but think they are achieving something turning off the fairy lights for an hour that probably don't even pull a KW all up.

Maybe we should pull the plug on twits who come up and promote this crap?  I wonder how many resources and how much energy WAS used in making a song and dance about it?  I would GAURANTEE there was more energy expended on designing and printing this large and plentiful signs all round town let alone the others in the district than what switching the fairy lights off would ever save not to mention all the other resources that went into them including paying people to drive round and put them up then on Monday go round and take the damn things down again.

I'll guarantee the most prominent supporters of this garbage are the inner city trendy types that don't even have a solar panel on their shoebox apartment roofs but think they are saving the world and achieving something with this rubbish.

This save the environment/ co2 / feelgood crap really has gone too far and is just an insult to peoples intelligence with crap like this


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Re: Earth Hour
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2019, 10:44:39 AM »
I'll bet this really pisses off the personel in the control rooms of every generator when the load dissapears for an hour and then comes back on again.

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Re: Earth Hour
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2019, 10:45:16 AM »
Hi Glort, there are 8760 hours in a year, if these dimwit campaigners believe that one hour is going to make the slightest difference they are deluded and need to seek psychiatric assistance. I am sure that all these people will be back in their cars tomorrow, clogging the roads and belching fumes. The only difference is that they will be able to do it with a clear conscience because they observed "Earth Hour", a bit like a pedophile priest going to confession on Sunday and then going back to molesting children on Monday.

What a crock of sh1t!  >:(

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Re: Earth Hour
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2019, 10:59:42 AM »

Haha, You made me laugh Bob.
You nailed it.

The typical do gooder mentality. Some token insignificant one off thing and they believe they have performed Miracles.
A couple of forums I am on are infected by the green washed. they love to put up lists of save the planet ideals.
Don't eat meat or limit your consumption. Don't travel by air or car, use public transport or push bike. Turn your dirty jocks inside out out so the shit stains are on the outside and wear for another week before washing, install a battery in your home and so it goes.

Then you find out they live in the outer suburbs and drive to work in their SUV every day with a roof pod they never take off, have 4 kids, don't have a solar panel, water tank or anything else but think they just saved the world by purchasing a new electric lawn mower to  cut the 20Sqm of grass on their 350msq block.   ::)

Of course then there was the guy that was going on and on about this software and controller he had designed that would let laptops discharge their battery's back into the grid at night  to save  FF generation till they could be recharged during the day from solar.
No, I'm not kidding, this guy was aggressively serious and called people ( like me) names if anyone dared question it.

One day, if I live till 196 years old, I'll read of a VALID suggestion to do some good for the world.


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Re: Earth Hour
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2019, 11:07:18 AM »
I'll bet this really pisses off the personel in the control rooms of every generator when the load dissapears for an hour and then comes back on again.

I'll bet they don't even notice a blip but I'll double bet the supporters will claim 1200 Terra watts and 3 billion tons of Co2 were saved in that one hour....just in outer Mongolia alone!!

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Re: Earth Hour
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2019, 01:13:54 PM »
Whether it helps the earth or not, it's still fun to take part in.  Also makes the hippie type chicks a little looser.  Win,win.

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Re: Earth Hour
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2019, 06:04:11 PM »
The point is raising awareness, not power saving, duh. 
The science is clear, the longer we wait, the greater the impact on the lives of our grandkids.

I'm not sure what goes on in the heads of deniers- very little it seems, and a lack of compassion. 


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Re: Earth Hour
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2019, 06:07:01 PM »
Ah; Lister Engine Forum where the worlds greatest thinkers and studs gather to consider the universe. 

Thanks for helping spread the word about the challenges we face in this changing world.  Pi day and solstice were good but now earth hour in the same month makes March Great Again.

OK Perps;  Back over and push your heads down into that sand absolutely as far as you can.  And folks said the pointy part wouldn't be a real help.  Remember; A dirty worn out planet is far better than a well maintained one.  Sort of like Lister engines.
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Re: Earth Hour
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2019, 06:10:26 PM »
Hey Bruce,

I hear the photos of the bottom of the flat planet will first be seen at this sight.  I've heard that it's really shaped much like a coin but I haven't seen the photos as of yet.  The moon and the sun are important facts leading to this obvious theory.

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Re: Earth Hour
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2019, 11:44:58 PM »
Maybe try Earth week, stop all electricity for personal use for one week. No internet, no lights, no ipad or tv. See how many of these inner city greens would join in then and be 100% committed to the cause. I'm guessing not many.
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Re: Earth Hour
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2019, 12:04:30 AM »
It's not about politics, it's about leaving a habitable planet for future generations.

Yes, humans are irrational. Half of all humans are below average intelligence; think about your friend who is average, then think of a billion people half that smart. That's the nature of humans.

We need the best minds in science and engineering, and climatologists to address the problem, and politicians to follow their advice; Alas, politicians follow the will of the masses.
Thus silly programs to make the public think about their planet. 




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Re: Earth Hour
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2019, 11:30:56 AM »
Hi BruceM, I hope you don`t think I was having a go at people like yourself who have actually reduced their carbon footprint to a minimum, I wasn`t.

Nor was I having a go at anyone trying to mitigate climate change, I wasn`t.

I was just trying to point out the stupidity of any protest that has only a 0.0114 % effect, assuming that everybody on earth joined in.

As for my concerns for future generations, my daughter is getting married soon with the intention of raising a family. I have very grave concerns about how that is going to end.

Were you aware that at the end of April, one month from today, there will be 8 million more humans on earth than there are today? In time, they will all expect a car, a home, electricity and all the gadgets that can be connected to it. They will then expect the right to have children of their own.

We have huge problems with mass immigration from Africa into Europe and from South America into the USA, I can`t see these problems going away anytime soon.

Exponential growth in a finite world is impossible, something has to give. If you know what that something is please share it with us so we can get on with solving the problem.

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Re: Earth Hour
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2019, 12:39:29 PM »
The point is raising awareness, not power saving, duh. 

Then i'm sorry to say but it is a completely pointless exercise once again.

I'm aware to the back teeth and beyond with all the globull warming/ co2 / emissions thing.
I can't look on the net, go to the supermarket, buy an appliance, open a bill, watch TV, go to the letterbox  or do anything else without it is shoved down my throat.

I'm made aware about 100 times a day and I believe anyone else not living in a cave is also. It's got waaay too much!
Might have been worthwhile 10 years ago but I literally can't even go to the bathroom now without getting a new roll and seeing some environmental message  on the bog paper packaging.
I have had well and truly enough of it and most people I talk to feel the same. it's going backwards now because it's annoying people having it thrown in their face all the time.

If they haven't heard the message by now they never will.
in any case, turning the lights off here is just more likely to make people think we have had another power failure!

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It's not about politics, it's about leaving a habitable planet for future generations.

I'm sorry, Bruce, it's ALL about politics and MONEY.

This is exactly the same as the Safety industry, fear mongering and riding on the back of a noble cause for profit and greed.  Any real concern for the planet is a pipe dream.  This is now well and truly ALL about the money and appeasing those like yourself that are concerned with political promises and gestures to win votes.  We have a party here called the greens. That's as political as it gets.

As a parent of an early 20 something, i can say through wide observation of a number of similarly aged groups, they don't give a Fk about the environment and the whole ideal of taking care of it for them or their children is rather laughable when they don't give it a thought themselves. .

These kids want it all and they want it now.  Cars 5 Yo are too old for them and they want something newer. They wear clothes once or 3 times at the most and profess they can't be seen dead wearing them again. And don't.  They never have their arses out of an airplane traveling the world.  They  would not switch off a light or anything else unless threatened with death. They will put clothes in the electric dryer on a perfectly sunny day and that's after they have washed the 3 items they need for work tomorrow that have been sitting round 4 days and won't put anything else in with them cause it's too much trouble.  These are the kids that have to have a new iphoney a week after the new model comes out even though there is nothing wrong with the 2 yo one they have bar the deal breaking problem of it now being out of date. These are the kids that fly to the other side of the world for a festival where they are all provided tents, sleeping bags and plastic cutlery for the event and then they use it a Night or 2 then it end up in masses of skip bins to go to land fill. Too much effort to carry and costs excess baggage on the way back. Besides, the promoters at the next festival will provide branded gear for the next one.

It's the most consuming , wasteful, throwaway generation so far and their prime concerns are having a good time. As they get a bit older they are far more worried about finding a decent jon and how the Fk they are ever going to afford a place of their own which will be a tiny little butter box with crap insulation and often made to be as consuming and energy dependent as possible.

I would guarantee far less than 1% of first/ new home buyers even give a thought o the efficiency of their home or would spend a zac on insulation and put the thought into it that you have.

I'm not saying they are bad kids, they are just following the social and commercial plan that has been laid out for them by Big business and their Gubbermint puppets.  They also have a lot more to worry about in their day to day lives and the next 12 months ahead they are struggling with now to be worried about what might happen in 50 years.
In a lot of cases the ways of big biz and gubbermint gives them little option if they DO want to do anything environmentally concerned. In many cases the environmentally responsible prescribed initiatives are an ineffective joke anyway.

You would be one of the very few supporters of the cause I have any respect for however, it's still a moot point because business will always do what makes them the most money and that is not actually saving the environment but there is a lot of money in Pretending to.


Also, I strongly disagree with the science being proven  or conclusive or anything else.  I don't believe climate change is man made but I also don't believe there is any evidence either way that can be remotely trusted.
EVERYONE has a finger is some pie be if for or against.  Maybe it is happening but I dispute there is any factual evidence it is, the same as it cannot be proven it is not.

There are many powerful, vested interest in both sides of the argument and both have potentially a lot to gain and loose.

The only truth is we can never really know or be sure.
« Last Edit: March 31, 2019, 12:57:58 PM by glort »

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Re: Earth Hour
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2019, 11:54:25 AM »
Earth Day got this thread going.  Better than nothing.  It's effectiveness in raising awareness is demonstrated.

Oh, and no more crazy talk about a week without the internet.  I'm sorry but I have standards.
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Re: Earth Hour
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2019, 12:45:00 PM »

  It's effectiveness Annoyance in raising awareness is demonstrated.



Fixed your typo for you mate.