Dave:
i wanted to wait and see how the mix panned out,, i have to admit i on one and a bit shocked, and on the other hand
shocked that i am shocked!
the way things were going on a particular thread, i was beginning to wonder about the mix of thinking in regard to the purchase of a listeroid.
it made me wonder perhaps i am all wet, and too narrow in my focus.
i was beginning to think that perhaps there was a strong contengent of folks that purchased these engines, to reengineer them.
or as a test bed to prove out their capability to reinvent the engine.
once i started to think down those lines it became apparent to me, what motivates those type of individuals. Then it became easier to cope with the wierd (to me)progression of ideas.
so i decided to stop and rethink things a bit. Realizing that everyone has different motives, thoughts and goals, made trying to have a dialog easier for me.
until i got a grasp of this concept, quite frankly the discussion became very tedious and frustrating.
then i thought,,, "oh ok,,, if that is what you look to the listeroid for, is a test bed for engineering idea's, fine! i can accept that"
the next thought came to mind, ... "wait a minute,,,, how many folks are in that camp?" "and who are they?"
i figured it would be far easier to discuss idea's if you i knew the motivation.
so far there seems to be an overwhelming majority of folks that want to use the engines as supplied to do useful work, without
having to reinvent the damn things.
as an example if mr. X, is an engineer, that wants a test engine to work out different idea's he has, develop for instance roller tips etc... then fine... i can understand that, and can have a constructive dialog with the guy. or.....
if mr. Y, wants an engine to provide power and useful work, and i know that up front, then the dialog goes a different direction,
and i can follow that... that cool...
problem is,,, when you have a mix of X's and Y's and don't know from adam where they are coming from you get a pretty wierd thread going, with those in X's camp going one direction and those in Y's camp going the other, and neither side understanding why, or worse yet looking at each other like the other side is nuts.
i guess the surprise to me after following some of the threads, was the apparent low number of Mr. X's, and a very high number of Mr. Y's that have stepped forward to answer this thread.
so far i havent seen any that got their engines for the purpose of reengineering them.
don't get me wrong,,, i am equally at ease with either line of thinking,,, just wanted to know which direction we were going and what the goals are.
hopefully that makes sense.
bob g