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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #75 on: October 13, 2018, 12:49:48 AM »
will that wood and castors support the engine?

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #76 on: October 13, 2018, 01:28:27 AM »
Hi JD

I believe that it is. The wood is 14x7cm, the castors will be fixed with threaded rod M10, the fastening of the crosspieces is with threaded rod M12. and the motor is secured with M14 threaded rod.

The casters are from an 1000L trash container (~200kg/unit).

We will see!

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« Last Edit: October 13, 2018, 01:43:01 AM by sirpedrosa »
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Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #77 on: October 13, 2018, 08:56:06 PM »
Hi Everyone

Updating the Kart task. there is no need for that brute force planned. 10mm rods to hold the frame straight is sufficient.

And only 12mm for the engine. "Let's give it some room"

Bob, thanks for the warnig of the wet wood, when I tightened the screws I saw that the fibers were very soft. loosen and painted the tops with an enamel that lay there on the shelf - only for the wood not to breathe from the top.

Now let it dry more ...

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Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #78 on: October 13, 2018, 11:05:51 PM »
While the "Leslie" goes by nothing like shining the taps (the supply tank, the fuel tank and fuel return nipple)

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Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #79 on: October 14, 2018, 12:00:00 PM »
Hi Pedrosa, I heard on the news today that Portugal is facing a very rare and dangerous Atlantic storm. Hoping all is well with you and your family.

Stay safe,
Bob

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« Reply #80 on: October 14, 2018, 01:32:20 PM »
Hi Bob

Just a few showers to settle the dust, and in some places strong gusts of wind that knocked down some trees. So far there is no news of major occurrences.

Civil protection had warned enough. Everything is normal already.

How's the restoration going around?

I have to have the gibkey puller cut, to go forward ... and "take the little boy out of the shack"

I have some gas soldering to do on PETTER ... I had to buy the second hand apparatus for DIY.

Self-taught in gas welding... Let's move forward!

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Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #81 on: October 14, 2018, 01:57:05 PM »
Very glad to hear things are OK. Good luck with doing the hot work, soldering/brazing are not the same as welding. The first two involve the addition of a lower melting point metal to the original metal, this usually involves the use of a flux to prevent oxidization. Welding involves melting two similar metals so they fuse together as one.

Best of luck with moving your engine from it`s shed. Hoping your kart works well, please use ropes and pulleys and stay out of the way. 700 Kg of cast iron can make a mess of a man, even at very slow speed.

My build is slow but steady, I`ve finished the injector and pump and I will post some pics tomorrow.

Bob

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #82 on: October 14, 2018, 04:33:10 PM »
I'm looking forward to seeing it up and running!

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #83 on: October 17, 2018, 12:02:20 PM »
Hi folks

Yesterday was the day to make the repairs left by the storm "Leslie" in the village house; some broken tiles, and quite a few broken pines.

The dismantling of the 12/2 took another step (before the shack fell on it with the winter).

I already have restoration for a few more weeks ...

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Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #84 on: October 18, 2018, 09:54:03 AM »
Well done Pedrosa, you are doing a great job in very difficult circumstances. Sorry to hear the shed collapsed, please put some polythene over the engine to keep out any water. Glad to hear you got through the weather event with only a couple of loose roof tiles and a few trees down.

Bob

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #85 on: October 18, 2018, 11:03:08 AM »
Hi bob

The shed is not yet collapsed, it rains inside but not on the engine - and yes, it is (and was) properly protectid. But another "leslie" and i think it dosn't hang.

By the way, pistons have a notch in bottom and as far as i remember it is oriented to exaust valve. Am i correct?

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Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #86 on: October 18, 2018, 12:18:47 PM »
Hi Pedrosa, when looking into the crankcase door there are two visible features: the first is that there are numbers punched into the conrod and main bearing housing these should be facing you at bottom dead center.
The second feature is that the piston has a notch in it which should be on the right as you look in the crankcase door.

Interestingly, if you purchase a new piston there is no notch in it, nor is there any other way of determining the correct orientation. I have measured them and I believe them to be symmetrical so you can fit them either way.

Bob

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« Reply #87 on: October 18, 2018, 01:36:10 PM »
Hi Bob

When I took out the pistons, the gudgeon pin slided better in the direction of the notch. That is on the cyl 1 to the right, and on the cyl 2 to the left (seen from the governor side).

It means - following your clarification - that the notch will be on the side of the exhaust valve, because the 12/2 exaust manifolds are simetric. do you agree with my point if view?

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Ps: open crankcase will be donne when is seats on kart.
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #88 on: October 18, 2018, 04:00:47 PM »

Interestingly, if you purchase a new piston there is no notch in it, nor is there any other way of determining the correct orientation. I have measured them and I believe them to be symmetrical so you can fit them either way.

Bob

I also measured them and came to the same conclusion as you.
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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #89 on: October 18, 2018, 04:04:19 PM »
Hi 38ac

Do you agree with my conclusion?

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Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!