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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #150 on: March 15, 2019, 01:13:48 PM »
Hi Everyone

Finally tappets are all off, cleaned, fine sanded, and bathing in oxalic.

Next stage: brut force to get flywhels, main shaft and cam shaft off.

After that I hope the way will be up till head cover.

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #151 on: March 16, 2019, 10:54:25 PM »
Hi Everyone

Meanwhile, the Cotiemme engine of the harvester is already mounted and spinning, only need to repair (plus buy) a new centrifugal clutch.

here is final work...

Have a sunny day.

VP
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Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #152 on: March 19, 2019, 11:01:39 AM »
Hi Pedrosa, I am curious about the 2 1/4" crankshaft, early Lister CS engines had a smaller crank shaft diameter to later models but my experience is limited to single cylinder engines where the later models had a 2 inch diameter crank. It would make sense to increase the crankshaft diameter for a twin cylinder engine, I suspect that big end bearing journals will be smaller.

Looking good.

Bob

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #153 on: March 19, 2019, 11:48:24 AM »
Hi Bob

I made some research and I found that the Lister CD and CE has 2 1/4" shaft:
CD: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/ListerData/CDP4data.htm
CE: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel/ListerData/CEP4data.htm

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Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #154 on: May 02, 2019, 12:22:03 AM »
Hi Everyone

Today was a happy day. Booth gib keys came off with tapered wedge (gently, patience, and hammering with care)

Next step: Pull out flywheels and crank, and a good clean all over. After that the way is up...

Be happy
VP

PS: Very interesting, the gibkey steel is quite soft.
PS2: Another DIY, a clay mold to soak penetrating atf+acet in gibkey recess.

« Last Edit: May 07, 2019, 12:19:34 AM by sirpedrosa »
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Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #155 on: May 08, 2019, 11:52:44 AM »
 Glad to see they are out, I have never had any luck with a wedge. Yes they are soft so they could be filed and also so they would comform a bit when driven in. A properly fitted key should go 90% of the way in with light tapping and then tighten up with little more movement and stop abruptly. Be sure you keep them separated and install them in the same flywheel they came out of.
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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #156 on: May 08, 2019, 12:01:07 PM »
Hi Butch

Nice to hear from you.

Both keys has a figure number. See pic.

Your Ruston M, already runs diesel?

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Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #157 on: May 12, 2019, 09:32:35 AM »
Hi Everyone

Strip down goes on.

But, first in the morning I got to make a 2" spanner for pipe fiting, to unfasten and fasten conical bits, of "another" italian water pump. This one looks really a piece of cutting edge engineering. See pic.

After that take the 12/2 apart. This time Stef's method works. 2 wheels off.

Both camshaft end cover off. And a very interesting thing is the left cover has 5/16 studs and... 5/16 BSF format nut.

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« Last Edit: May 19, 2019, 04:38:28 PM by sirpedrosa »
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Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #158 on: May 12, 2019, 09:41:08 AM »
some more pics...

Sump is "reading old news".

The 55kg each wheel.

And the basket to amuse next days...

Thats all for now.

Have a nice week.
VP

PS: crankshaft center bearing nut is 1.5/16" socket. Another headache... and too hands inside is too much.
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Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #159 on: May 12, 2019, 10:51:51 AM »
Wow VP, you have been busy! I hope you have not been ignoring your policing duties. I would hate to read in the newspapers that there has been a sudden rise in the crime rate in Portugal!  :laugh:

I can`t help thinking that you are clearly a very fine engineer and those skills are probably underused in the police force. If you are as good a policeman as you are a diesel mechanic god help the criminals.

Keep up the good work.

Bob

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #160 on: May 12, 2019, 03:14:44 PM »
Hi Bob

Don't be worried with the duty. I'm not a patrolman (daily basis!). I lead, as graduated rank, a team of logistics branch in my station, and by work schedule senior duty officer.

Only summertime duty is toughest due to safety and security in beachs.

One day at a time...

Take care of your hand!

Cheers
VP

PS: Don't forget I must travel 170km*2 to meet my 12/2 everytime, because it's seated in the village [and mainly give a good hand to my octogenarians].
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Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #161 on: May 13, 2019, 10:00:38 PM »
Hi Everyone

I'd like some help with a question: look at the pic first.

The Lister manual points that the oil thrower ring has that direction, but in my 12/2 it was flipped, and I think was in original position, because it had original green paint.

Opinion are wellcome

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VP
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Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #162 on: May 17, 2019, 02:13:32 PM »
Hi Everyone

Some pics of small and big stuff geting cosmetics.

Cheers
VP
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #163 on: May 20, 2019, 09:50:52 PM »
Hi Everyone

updating tasks: the basket is full, I think i'll need another one to store parts already painted of  the 12/2.

And a courtesy of Jim Perkins to send me 3/16 round bar.

Cheers
VP
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Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #164 on: May 21, 2019, 12:40:37 AM »
My Goodness,

I just found a scared cylinder head face. I'll tell her a tale.
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx