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Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« on: August 06, 2018, 03:20:45 PM »
Hello everyone

Following Tiger's advice, here's a new 12/2 topic.

This Sunday was a day to visit the old machine. (Acquisition under discussion) Due to not deteriorate much more, it was all sprayed with WD40 - for now - I will experiment later on the ATF / acetone.

Bad news are: the whole system of governor seized with rust;
a fuel pump element seized with rust;
the two intake Tappets seized with rust.

All this at the first glance.

It's going to be a lot of work.

I kindly ask to anyone in this forum the 12/2 manual in pdf format.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2019, 10:58:19 AM by sirpedrosa »
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Zündfix in chamber and go (7Mai2023).

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2018, 04:18:52 PM »
I forgot,

Is missing also the return fuel line (was stolen cut, due the copper/brass), and the starting handle is somewhere that the owner don't remember.

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By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Zündfix in chamber and go (7Mai2023).

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2018, 07:59:52 PM »
Hey Sirpedrosa,

What a great project.  I think the twin is the best looking of all the Listers.  You've come to the right spot for informed guidance.  (Not me, I'm just a Lister fan boy.)

Best Wishes,

Casey

I'm thinking you should be careful around paint you want to remain with the 50/50 release stuff.
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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2018, 08:20:20 PM »
Hello Casey,

I recognize the 12/2 is a little beast (above 500kg), but this project means at lest to preserve history of my toddler time, as I had spent countless hours earring that POP/POP in my birth village.
But a single does't get out of my mind. One at time.

Please clarify me about that recipie of ATF/Acetone issues.

BR
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By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Zündfix in chamber and go (7Mai2023).

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2018, 10:00:03 PM »
I kindly ask to anyone in this forum the 12/2 manual in pdf format.

I have a couple of PDF's I can email you. One specifically calls out the 12/2 and I have an earlier version that list the 10/2(they are the same except for RPM. If you want to PM me your email address I will send them over to you.

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2018, 11:21:14 PM »
Greetings everyone

I would like to publicly acknowledge the support already given by BroncoDriver99.

See you later.
Pedrosa
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Zündfix in chamber and go (7Mai2023).

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2018, 09:23:39 AM »
Hello everyone

Following Tiger's advice, here's a new 12/2 topic.

This Sunday was a day to visit the old machine. (Acquisition under discussion) Due to not deteriorate much more, it was all sprayed with WD40 - for now - I will experiment later on the ATF / acetone.

Bad news are: the whole system of governor seized with rust;
a fuel pump element seized with rust;
the two intake Tappets seized with rust.

All this at the first glance.

It's going to be a lot of work.

I kindly ask to anyone in this forum the 12/2 manual in pdf format.


Try this.  A 12/2 is really, largely, just a couple of 6/1s

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2018, 01:36:55 PM »
Many thanks MikeNash

More good stuff to burn eyelashes.

Br
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By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Zündfix in chamber and go (7Mai2023).

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2 - meanwhile a Petter PAZ1
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2018, 11:25:13 PM »
My dear friends

Do not get me wrong but I said earlier that I was going to take baby steps.

The historic rivalry between RA Lister and the Petter brothers can not fail to honor both in contributing to the advancement of technology.

So I looked for an acceptable price machine to honor the Petter brothers too, and today I went to get a PAZ1.

Not working because it is dry. In a few days I give him a drink to see if he is resuscitated.

At first glance it has good compression, but the blower casing accuses the hard work of moving a cement mixer for a few years. It has some patches and a lot of welds.

Here are some pictures. Please be complacent because this is not the right place, and as soon as possible I will open a new thread in the right place - even because I need help and literature.

It seems to me to have been a good deal. The cost of going fetch it and the temporary wheelbase, is already higher than the cost of the machine.

Now I need your support with the workshop manual for disassembly and assembly this PAZ1.

However the 12/2 is not forgotten, but it needs more manpower.

Best Regards to All
Pedrosa
« Last Edit: August 09, 2019, 11:03:49 AM by sirpedrosa »
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Zündfix in chamber and go (7Mai2023).

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2018, 01:28:12 AM »
Greetings my good fellows

I started the new thread of my PETTER PAZ1 here: http://listerengine.com/smf/index.php?topic=8333.msg95728#new

Fell free to enjoy.

Best regards to all
Pedrosa
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Zündfix in chamber and go (7Mai2023).

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2018, 01:25:15 AM »
Greetings my good fellows

Today (at this time I mean yesterday) was one day of the days.

I'm officialy woner of a Lister 12/2 1957  - to restore.

Long exaust pipes are all ready off, fuel line and tank too.

To do list: manage some way to get it out of shed, seat it on a trolley and strip it down.

Best regards to all, and please be happy
VPedrosa
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Zündfix in chamber and go (7Mai2023).

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2018, 01:50:33 AM »
Greetings my good fellows

Today (at this time I mean yesterday - again) was one day of the days (2*110miles).

Strip it down has begin!!!

after soaking for a few weeks.

Create some space in the shack ...

Exhaust pipes off, manifolds off, line fuel off, fuel tank off, decompressor levers off, rockers off, push roods off, governor connetings off (a few), fuel pumps off, and fuel pumps cleaning (a few minutes a go).

Next: figure out a way to get it home...

Best regards to all, and please be happy
VPedrosa
« Last Edit: August 25, 2019, 02:00:21 PM by sirpedrosa »
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Zündfix in chamber and go (7Mai2023).

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2018, 01:51:16 AM »
Some more pictures...
« Last Edit: August 25, 2019, 02:03:12 PM by sirpedrosa »
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Zündfix in chamber and go (7Mai2023).

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2018, 02:14:04 AM »
One last question for the community:

Should not the valve tappet guides, and the valves tappets, have left?
The bottom of the tappets does not pass in the hole where the guide rests.

Enlight me, please.

BR
VP
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Zündfix in chamber and go (7Mai2023).

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Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2018, 09:49:04 PM »
My good fellows

One more afternoon in the shop, and one pump is cleaned.

BR
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« Last Edit: August 25, 2019, 02:07:49 PM by sirpedrosa »
By order of firing up:
Bernard 18A - 1968 (mama's water pump - year of my birth)
Petter PAZ1 - Jun 1967, 3HP, sn 416xxxx
Petter PAZ1 - Nov 1979, 3HP, sn 425xxxx
Lister 12/2 - 12651227, the pearl!
Deutz MAH 914, 1952 - Zündfix in chamber and go (7Mai2023).