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You guys probably saw this
« on: March 01, 2018, 11:53:17 PM »
Interesting way to start an engine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDRZicQ-_9k

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Re: You guys probably saw this
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2018, 01:41:18 AM »
Words fail me.

I've seen something like this done with a motorbike and an a playground carousal.

https://www.wired.com/2011/09/spinning-merry-go-round-of-death/

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Re: You guys probably saw this
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2018, 05:01:40 AM »
How do you say "Here, hold my beer" in Russian.
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Re: You guys probably saw this
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2018, 08:31:49 AM »
How not to sart one...........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bD1b1nDJxo

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Tighten 'til it strips, weld nut to chassis, peen stud, adjust with angle grinder.

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Re: You guys probably saw this
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2018, 09:17:39 AM »
Then at the end, I see the old coot come out with a crank handle and wind it over with little effort! 
WTF??

Judging by how much spinning it took to get going from the van, I suspect that's one Lister which really doesn't like cold starting. He'd be spinning by hand for a week to try to get it to fire. On the other hand, it may just be he was trying to start it with it's low compression set, which I thought was basically impossible even when the engine is hot?

The second - hand-cranked - start would be when the engine was already warmed up.

TBH, although it looks very smart, ISTM that Lister needs some mechanical attention. The governer was clearly hunting badly, it was obviously a bear to start cold, makes me wonder what else was up with it.
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Re: You guys probably saw this
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2018, 10:11:38 AM »
I think the video title said it hadn't been started in a few years. This guy is in the UK well the van has UK plates and he's obviously mad it's a nice looking engine but only one flywheel??

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Re: You guys probably saw this
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2018, 04:12:18 PM »
it's a nice looking engine but only one flywheel??

This video came up a while back. It is an air compressor variant. Here is a thread about it. http://listerengine.com/smf/index.php?topic=8120.0

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Re: You guys probably saw this
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2018, 05:30:43 PM »
It's a nice looking engine but only one flywheel??
Yes, all Hamworthy close coupled compressor sets are like this, and as a result they are seriously out of balance when running.



Then at the end, I see the old coot come out with a crank handle and wind it over with little effort! 
WTF??

Ever tried to start an engine on the handle after standing that length of time, not an easy proposition.

The reason why it subsequently starts easily on the handle, is because the engine is warmed up and compression is restored.

I don't know a lot about front wheel drive cars but I do know with the wrong sort of trans, the thing could want to drive itself even with one wheel up. Might have some sort of lock up clutch in the diff or engage at a certain speed etc.

That's a Ford Escort MKIII van, no limited slip differential in that vehicle.

The planet gears in the differential had a workout on this occasion.

it may just be he was trying to start it with it's low compression set, which I thought was basically impossible even when the engine is hot?

So how would this work on say a 6/1 startomatic set, are they left in the high compression all the time to guarantee a cold start?

I knew of a Lister FR2 Startomatic set which was at all times left in the low compression setting, but it needed a good set of batteries to ensure it started.

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Re: You guys probably saw this
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2018, 10:46:34 PM »
I thought he had a crowbar on the frame to lever it towards the wheel?

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Re: You guys probably saw this
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2018, 01:55:26 AM »
He surely doen't deserve a real Lister with it's nice paint, if he's going to push his car fender right up to the tank and run the paint off.

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Re: You guys probably saw this
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2018, 08:49:27 AM »

Ever tried to start an engine on the handle after standing that length of time, not an easy proposition.

Well yes I have and it wasn't hard.


Where you live (Australia) the ambient temperatures are higher, back in the UK they are a lot lower. This will have a significant effect on the cold starting performance of any diesel engine that has been standing for a considerable time period, and which has no cold starting aids such as oil injection, glow plugs, etc. Other factors such as injector condition (fuel atomisation) will also come into play.



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Re: You guys probably saw this
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2018, 12:20:39 AM »
I find my CS takes quite a bit of winding if it's not been run for a while (over a year, say); but once it's been warmed up thoroughly at least once, it'll start easily 3 months later.

Don't ask me why this is.... I literally have no idea, and it makes no rational sense...
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