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[Doug]

I wonder if this is the "The German Engine design" from wich the China disel decended?

http://cgi.ebay.de/Frahrymann-Verdampfer-Motor-8-PS_W0QQitemZ280005101998QQihZ018QQcategoryZ32157QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

Doug

[GuyFawkes]

I wonder if this is the "The German Engine design" from wich the China disel decended?

http://cgi.ebay.de/Frahrymann-Verdampfer-Motor-8-PS_W0QQitemZ280005101998QQihZ018QQcategoryZ32157QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

Doug

nope, "german engine design" is a bit of a misnomer.

You can always spot an "english" engine because it is upright, may be inverted but it will be upright, because we were first with steam and steam first went into deep mines and boat hulls so you designed em upright

The germans (and europe in general, but the germans were the first volume production in europe) didn't have that heritage or constraints, so they made horizontal engines (the english did too in the days of steam, they were called railway locomotives and traction engines)

The english never liked horizontal engines because in any piston engine torque is always (unless you have a crosshead design which makes the motor even bigger) transmitted to the cylinder walls, on a vertical this is fairly even, on a horizontal you have gravity too, so you have to put gravity on the same side as compression torque, not power stroke torque

it's a cultural thing

nobody in europe talks about german or english style engines

actually dig into engine history here and on the continent and there are so many glaring exceptions to this "rule" you start to wonder how it ever came about.

[fattywagonman]

From the website....
The company Farymann was established in the year 1947 by Messrs. Farny and Weidmann. We are based in Lampertheim in the area of Hessen.
Since then the company has been producing single-cylinder diesel engines for industrial, construction equipment as well as marine and special applications.

The small scale enterprise quickly expanded to a medium-sized company. 1979 the American group Briggs & Stratton took over the company. From that point of time on, the company has developed into a modern industrial production plant.

Since 1985 Farymann Diesel has been an independent German GmbH (similar to limited liability company).

On a total site of about 20,000sqm an annual total of about 11,000 Farymann engines are produced. Each individual one justifies the excellent reputation that we enjoy among our customers world-wide.

Farymann's current sales area is principally in the construction equipment with engines for marine applications also being produced in high volume - especially for marine generators, pump systems and water purification systems.

Various other applications are also catered for such as generating sets for general purpose and specialist applications, winches and a wide variety of other equipment. The majority of engines sold are applied in ecologically sensitive environments, such as the lowering of the ground water level and soil compaction. Special applications are our main force.

The product range includes modern small diesel engines with outputs
of 3 - 11 kW, complete marine propulsion units and diesel generating sets.

Farymann was recently purchased by CE Neihoff
http://www.ceniehoff.com/
Who also owns Goodman Ball
http://www.goodmanball.com/
Neihoff sells about $80 million in high output alternators annually... Goodman is a military contractor who sells about $20-40 million in generators annually. I have a friend who works at Goodman.. they make a diesel / inverter  generator similar to what I'm trying to produce..