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getterdone

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things to know when going through a listroid
« on: March 14, 2014, 01:14:08 PM »
this is my second rebuild of a listroid . the first was about 12 years ago. a couple of things are hard to find without spending alot of time looking through the forum,are :head bolt tork, i found 165#'s  next rod bearing clearance .003, next cylinder squash [clearance] .045 to .055. this is all for the 6/1 listroid.
the way to do this i read is to, with shims to make up for the thickness of the  head., tork the head bolts down to 165# ? and lay a straight edge across the top add shims or remove shims until piston just touches ., the head gasket gives you the .045 to .055 clearance.
could all of these things  be put in the wall of knowledge as are the governor springs?
correct any thing that is wrong of course. 
getting old i forgot how i did my first one. in saying that it has over 8000hrs on it with only a timing gear and injection pump replaced.
but that is not the topic here as is finding the information in a easy access place all together on this forum. 

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Re: things to know when going through a listroid
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2014, 02:12:44 PM »
i forgot valve clearance .017 exhaust and .017 intake ?
all comments welcome, but please try to stay on subject. of the 6/1 listroid.
 

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Re: things to know when going through a listroid
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2014, 04:25:15 PM »
30 thou cold  piston to head clearance is ok and improves cold starts.

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Re: things to know when going through a listroid
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2014, 04:26:20 PM »
Do you have George's book?

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Re: things to know when going through a listroid
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2014, 12:38:04 AM »
6/1 and 12/2 .... Inlet .017 in.  Exhaust .032

8/1 and 16/2 .... Inlet .008 in. Exhaust .008
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Re: things to know when going through a listroid
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2014, 01:59:41 AM »
i have Georges cd.
i ended up with .065 piston to head. thats with one gasket.
i'd have to have the head milled to get less.
and thanks dieselgman i'll set valves accordingly.
the rest of the engine is completed.
oh and i have .004 rod bearing clearance .,a little much but i think it will do.
26hrs of work. it will be worth it.
i'll be modifying for veggy oil when i get time.
George if you read this i'm still waiting for the thermostat housing,and idler bolts.

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Re: things to know when going through a listroid
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2014, 02:05:28 AM »
i still think there is a need for admin to put this info together and put it in wall of knowledge
it would be a easy quick check., for the forgetful old farts like me..

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Re: things to know when going through a listroid
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2014, 05:47:51 AM »
i still think there is a need for admin to put this info together and put it in wall of knowledge
it would be a easy quick check., for the forgetful old farts like me..

And all the other tidbits gleaned over the years (and for the ST alternators too)

fuel filter: FRAM C11860PL which is really a crossland 457
add-on thermostat NAPA 253 & grind out the housing to accept it.

Tappet Clearances COLD Inlet 0.017" Exhaust 0.032" for 3/1, 5/1, 6/1, 10/2, 12/2.
Tappet clearances for the 8/1 and 16/2 are 0.008" both valves COLD

Valve heads recessed into cylinder head face by 0.055" Min to 0.100" Max
 Bump Clearance 0.045" to 0.050"
  Valve Seats  Detroit Diesel series 92 valve seats are a very close replacement

Valve Timing:  ????
Injector timing:  ?????