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Lister TR2/Stamford Newage auto start wiring
« on: December 27, 2012, 11:23:56 AM »
Recently I purchased a generator set built by Lister with a TR2 engine and Stamford BC164B Alternator and Lister Auto Start. It was in pieces when I got it very cheap as the Alternator was supposed to be faulty. I have reassembled it and the only fault in the alternator I could find was a wire for the AVR that should have been on neutral was on one of the other terminals.

What I can't work out is the wiring of the auto start box, it has some wiring connected to the engine and will start, run and stop itself. There are a number of wires around the engine going to nothing and I believe this unit is supposed to start the generator when a load is connected.

Can anybody help with a wiring diagram for this setup?

Thanks in advance.

Gary

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Re: Lister TR2/Stamford Newage auto start wiring
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2012, 02:40:40 PM »
On your TR2, the automatic start will normally be triggered by a transfer switch or other remote signal, {not a load.} edit: bracketed comment likely in error for this Australian built controller?
The exact configuration is highly variable but not that complex. What brand generator build and location? What model start controller? Pictures?

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« Last Edit: December 28, 2012, 01:50:13 PM by dieselgman »
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Re: Lister TR2/Stamford Newage auto start wiring
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2012, 11:03:51 AM »
Here are some pictures, the Auto Start box is made by Lister Australia. It is presently configured for single phase 240 volt 50Hz, I may change it later to 415 Volt 3 phase.

I used to have a neighbour who had a single cylinder Lister Generator that had what I am assuming is the same system. It definitely started automatically when you turned on any load ie lights, pump etc, the generator burst into life like magic and went quite when the load was turned off again.

The Engine will run but shuts down after about 1 minute, I did not have time today look more closely as we had a storm coming. A wiring diagram for the Auto Start would be invaluable for making sure it is working correctly and for installing it.









I have followed the steps http://listerengine.com/smf/index.php?topic=5796.0 but the images are not showing, you can view them here http://listerenginegallery.com/main.php?g2_itemId=8266
« Last Edit: December 28, 2012, 11:45:11 AM by Madness »

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Re: Lister TR2/Stamford Newage auto start wiring
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2012, 01:39:39 PM »
Thanks, my prior statement regarding your autostart is very likely in error.

We have easy access to the Stamford head diagrams for your 164B, also the TR2 engine wiring (and full knowledge of how to make the engine operate properly), but have not seen the Australian autostart board before. That was not likely ever exported from Australia, but we will make an attempt to locate some details with our U.K. Lister suppliers.

This is apparently one of those items that was built and used within a region, but not worldwide, and we have not done any work in Australia as of now. I have never seen mention of this type controller in any of the Lister Dealer documentation and I have pretty much seen or read it ALL (for North America).

Anyone in (or from) OZ know where to find documentation for this autostart controller?

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Re: Lister TR2/Stamford Newage auto start wiring
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2012, 11:59:43 PM »
may be worth trying Welling and Crossly in melbourne . Peter