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ChangChai all aluminum EV 80
« on: November 03, 2012, 01:16:25 AM »
guys, this is something very new from China and unlike the usual single horizontal we are use to, rather this is a compact unit with in built radiator,stepper motor governor, electric start and charging and top with a engine monitoring module. all in a 58kg package. out put is 14KW @3600 rpm.

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more update once i got mine in about a month.
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Re: ChangChai all aluminum EV 80
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2012, 01:42:52 AM »
reported to be about 2k a piece in container load quantities, after shipping and handling costs are included.

nice looking engines, but i don't see them making much headway here, because those that import them, assuming the can get epa approval will want to make a profit, so the price it likely to be north of 2 grand a copy.

a bit spendy in my opinion, even though they look really cool

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Re: ChangChai all aluminum EV 80
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2012, 06:03:56 AM »
Hi Bob,

the EV 80 is EPA certified.

freight cost to the States is always a show killer that easily add another 25% to the cost unless this is ship via container load.

incidentally, the EV 80 is the centennial model for ChangChai during their recent 100 yrs celebration held in 3rd week Oct. they have come a long way. ChangFa is their very youngish offspring.

everything here is in large scale



and 10 engines in one stroke.

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Re: ChangChai all aluminum EV 80
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2012, 02:16:53 PM »
man am i drooling over the warehouse pictures of the singles!

i would love a container load of electric start 175's

sadly they are not epa certified

if you are there, see if they have any interest in getting the 175 or 195 epa certified?

if they would do so, i think they would find a strong market for those engine's here in the states.

especially now after the hurricane!

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Re: ChangChai all aluminum EV 80
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2012, 05:45:39 AM »
Hi Bob,

Apparently some export guy in Changfa is doing just that. a EPA certified single designated the CF series. with Czech made fuel injection systems, different intake arrangement and was painted in green.

but then again, they are selling like something 7000 unit per week and i doubt they are keen to export.

 

every corners i can see is stack with 2 tier high of engines. this is almost diesel engine paradise on earth



enjoy the pics

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Re: ChangChai all aluminum EV 80
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2012, 03:11:33 AM »

Wow !
That's impressive.
And...... JiangDong, Changfa, and LianFa all have similar warehouses full of that stuff.
DrooooooooL !

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Re: ChangChai all aluminum EV 80
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2012, 01:22:24 AM »
Thanks for showing us those, we are all drooling now

And the next shippent is,,,,,?
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Re: ChangChai all aluminum EV 80
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2012, 11:27:58 AM »
Butch, you are welcome. pls see my next post on 175 truck APU. the chinese solution.
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Re: ChangChai all aluminum EV 80
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2013, 07:49:32 AM »
guys,

my unit arrived a week ago. thinking this was the 1st export unit would get the manufacturer some attention....well i was a little wrong. the engine come complete except 7 pin out from 2 sockets in wiring harness.

further correspondences to the factory did not yield any reply as the EV 80 is fresh from the line. perhaps the various depts had not sort out the documentation.

anyway, the impatient me could wait no more. with the stepper motor driven fuel rack removed, i primed the engine and it burst to life on first kick from the starter by manually adjusting the fuel rack. i quickly shut the fuel rack as the pressurized lub fed was spraying oil over the the stepper motor opening. it starts easy without heating assist.

here is the pix. i am thinking of making these engine available to the US of A. let me know your wish lists. i can provide more photo including the innards workings if need be. just give me some time as i am recovering from a bad sinus infection.

teaser photo is here below. full album in http://listerenginegallery.com/main.php?g2_itemId=8545

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Re: ChangChai all aluminum EV 80
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2013, 01:04:45 PM »
what is the expected retail price here in the states?

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Re: ChangChai all aluminum EV 80
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2013, 01:58:14 PM »
Looks like a very nicely done package! Can we get them with SAE flywheel housings?

Maybe we should stuff a container along with a batch of alternators!  :laugh:

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Re: ChangChai all aluminum EV 80
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2013, 03:15:58 PM »
"all aluminum"   What about piston, liner and crankshaft ?    Geared cam, belt drive or chain ?  interference valves?

 And if they are EPA blessed, what about the Peoples Republic of California CARB ? (the same folks who invented the dribble gas can, you can't fit the nozzle in your car tank, sealed air tight, and when transferring fuel, more dribbles on the ground, than into the intended target)

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Re: ChangChai all aluminum EV 80
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2013, 03:45:49 AM »
what is the expected retail price here in the states?

bob g

Bob, the shipping cost will be a real concern for individual engine. i will have to figure a way to circumvent these.

i paid about 300USD from factory to Malaysia on LCL shipments charges.

but i understand LCL shipment is a taboo in US as any co ship consignee if found to flout your importation law, all the rest of the shipments will be returned to the original port.

maybe we could do a group by if there are sufficient interest to fill a contianer load.

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Re: ChangChai all aluminum EV 80
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2013, 03:59:06 AM »
Looks like a very nicely done package! Can we get them with SAE flywheel housings?

Maybe we should stuff a container along with a batch of alternators!  :laugh:

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not sure if the SAE applies to these PTO type of output. but i have seen unit coupled to Leroy Sommer head with just a adapter plate mounted to the engine block, the head has a hollow shaft front end with taper and screw on with a long screw from the rear for single bearing operation. this little engine is rated at 19hp at 3600rpm so shd make a compact standby unit. the speed is governed electronically. either 3000rpm or 3600rpm. there is no option to adjust unless you opt for governor less operation.

i have contacted Marath** and Stamf*** OEM here. we need to sort out some matters before it can be loaded into the container bound for NAmerica. let see.....

i think it could be a right standby unit for the storm inflicted cut out in the US of A where portability is a priority. this engine is not recommended for off grid use as i see it. the single horizonotal or your aircooled Lister would make a far better choice for duty operation.
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Re: ChangChai all aluminum EV 80
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2013, 04:19:17 AM »
"all aluminum"   What about piston, liner and crankshaft ?    Geared cam, belt drive or chain ?  interference valves?

 And if they are EPA blessed, what about the Peoples Republic of California CARB ? (the same folks who invented the dribble gas can, you can't fit the nozzle in your car tank, sealed air tight, and when transferring fuel, more dribbles on the ground, than into the intended target)

Mike, with my limited understanding of English (i am a Malaysian chinese) , i hope to answer you correctly.

sorry, my bad. when i refer it as all aluminum, i was just referring to the cylinder head and the bottom block. i may have confused myseld with the automotive industry lingo as my toyota was advertised as a all alu D4D engine. btw, this is a 2.5L common rail, turbo direct injection diesel with 5 micro pulses per firing. thats what the brochure said.

the piston is of course alu. the rest are steel and some plastic parts.

talking about your CARB, goog old Ford of US of A in Malaysia had just introduced a new ranger 4x4 with 2.2 Lit VGT common rail diesel all alu engine and a 6 speed autobox. it has about 130hp and 300kNM of torque. within our highway speed limit of 68.75mph, the engine sings at 1900rpm!

i am beginning to suspect there is some sort of conspiracy thing going on by the auto indistry in not opting for fuel efficent vehicles in your country.

lee
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Yanmar Diesel L10,TS65,TS105 with Interpump hp head
Yanmar 3TN72, NT110 with ST5
Andoria S320
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Isuzu 25KVA Diesel silenced Genset
ChangChai EV80
JianDong 1115
Shineray250 watercooled- gasoline
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