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6-1 Lister Generator set gets a new generator head
« on: February 14, 2012, 06:52:40 PM »
I swapped the ST5 for a Kato brushless AC generator.  ST5 is available for sale.

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Re: 6-1 Lister Generator set gets a new generator head
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2012, 04:56:18 AM »
I could use another ST5, how much, and how do I reach you? Thanks, Mike

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Re: 6-1 Lister Generator set gets a new generator head
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2012, 12:44:00 PM »
Mike,
You can email me at rleonard@consolidated.net

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Re: 6-1 Lister Generator set gets a new generator head
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2012, 01:59:26 PM »
  Mighty fine looking machine.

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Re: 6-1 Lister Generator set gets a new generator head
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2012, 02:24:49 PM »
Thank you Sir.

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Re: 6-1 Lister Generator set gets a new generator head
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2012, 03:50:33 AM »

A beautiful looking setup. !
Is there any movement at all when you run it on the smooth concrete floor ?
Looks like you might have enough base mass there to prevent any "walking".

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Re: 6-1 Lister Generator set gets a new generator head
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2012, 02:52:16 PM »
I built the base heavy with that in mind.  It stays in place when running. 

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Re: 6-1 Lister Generator set gets a new generator head
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2012, 05:48:36 PM »
I have seen Bob's 6/1 in operation. I don't think it would move around if it was on caster wheels and placed on greased ice, :laugh:   It's a smooooth runner for sure.
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Re: 6-1 Lister Generator set gets a new generator head
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2012, 08:11:30 PM »
I think rleonard's base deserves an award.  All heavy steel and raised, for ease of access to engine and generator head, integrated with cooling system and with the hand crank for belt adjustment....a real masterpiece.

How did you balance your engine to get such a smooth runner, rleonard?


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Re: 6-1 Lister Generator set gets a new generator head
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2012, 09:38:23 PM »
Thank you Bruce.  More mass is the ticket for damping vibration.  That is why so many well done Lister (and other) engine installations start with a huge lump of concrete!  I wanted a sturdy, heavy base but I do not have a permanent home for the engine.  Someday I hope to build a proper "engine room" for these to reside.  So, until then, it has to be heavy to be smooth, and semi-portable.

A requirement was to follow the Lister recommendation that the crankshaft be 23" above the ground.  This is in the installation section of their manual.  Easier cranking and a convenient height for maintenance, service, and inspection.   Who am I to argue with them?

Next, use what materials are available or on hand.  The local steel dealer had the 12x1 HRS that became the I beam web  The flanges are 1/2 x 3.  The spacers between the I beams are solid steel bar stock left over from a job I did years ago.  About 3.5 in dia as I recall.  I drilled and tapped 3/4-10 into each end and made the spacers.  The rest is using what was on hand.  The radiator is a Ford 8N tractor rad off of ebay with rubber mounts from McMaster.  The legs are salvaged 3X5 square tubing.  They also make it easy to move it around with a pallet jack or forklift.

The generator slide mount is very simple and works great.  A inexpensive pillow block, threaded rod and a crank from some scrap machine are those pieces. 

I have detailed pictures and a few (not all) AUTOCAD drawings if anyone wants more information.

If I went through Butch's procedure for balancing it would be even smoother.  I might have to twist  his arm next summer.

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Re: 6-1 Lister Generator set gets a new generator head
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2012, 09:53:32 PM »
Tell me about that generator where did you get how much some spec Please. ???

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Re: 6-1 Lister Generator set gets a new generator head
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2012, 10:18:04 PM »
The generator is a 12 wire Kato unit.  It was salvaged from a used "frequency converter".  That is a 60hz motor (1800 RPM) that drives a generator at 1500 RPM to generate 50hz. 
Turning it faster and switching the regulator yields 240V 60hz. 

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Re: 6-1 Lister Generator set gets a new generator head
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2012, 08:22:46 PM »
Bob,
I see what appears to be an intake silencer.....does it have a noisy intake?
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Re: 6-1 Lister Generator set gets a new generator head
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2012, 11:29:16 PM »
I wanted an air filter and these Solderberg air compressor units filter and really cut the intake noise.  Granted it is not much but it all adds up. 

Somewhere on here is a youtube clip of the difference it makes on this engine.  I'd have to hunt for it.

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Re: 6-1 Lister Generator set gets a new generator head
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2012, 02:39:34 PM »
Bob,
I know the difference! I have 2 Listeroids one with a very quiet intake and one with a very noisy intake. I also have a Solderberg intake silencer on the noisy one. I was just curious if the original Lister's suffered from the same condition. I always blamed the noisy intake on the Indian assembly but maybe it is normal?!?.....is it an original Lister or is the decal faking me out? Hmmmm the more I look it is a Listeroid......
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