All members - some thoughts.

[GuyFawkes]

and I think GF wants to weed out the Listeroid wannbe's who wouldn't even know which way to crank the thing. Other members have said this privately, and George B. just sees red over this forum because of this.

no, I don't want that.

I just noticed the earliest signs of polarisation creeping in, so commented on it by starting this thread.

Without wannabes and newbies you might as well shut this site down now, no new blood and all that.

however, to be useful it should be easy for people to determine if I am any of the following

a/ someone who owns and runs a lister (oid)
b/ someone who owns and runs something else
c/ someone who doesn't own or run anything, and may or may not be thinking about it
d/ someone who may or may not actually own or run anything, but does sell stuff.

because obviously depending which I am is going to colour anything I say on any given subject, so to do my bit I've just edited my profile and added a sig, stating exactly what I own, and what I'm about.

[oldnslow]

To that end I have a suggestion, that we mandate what we are all about right now

because obviously depending which I am is going to colour anything I say on any given subject, so to do my bit I've just edited my profile and added a sig, stating exactly what I own, and what I'm about.

I see no exclusion of any kind. When I came here, I saw a good fit although not exact. Lots of interesting stuff. So I am a member now. So my 10/1 is 1000rpm. Does that mean I will not participate in the auto-shut down discussion? Of course not. We all have a reason to be here and obviously like it or we would have left already. Look around your circle of friends or guys at work. How many are as enthusiastic about this subject as you are? Not many. I need you guys. A few constraints will not mean a thing. Can I answer a repair question exactly on an original Lister? No, but I can weld cast iron pretty damn good.

The premise of what I think Guy is suggesting is to keep us cohesive and strong without loosing it all to the laws of diffusion.

Ok, just my 2 cents.

[GuyFawkes]

The premise of what I think Guy is suggesting is to keep us cohesive and strong without loosing it all to the laws of diffusion.

Ok, just my 2 cents.

yes, and be alert for the signs of specialisation and groupthink and stamp them out

[binnie]

Thanks Guy,
I like the idea of modifying the "signature" to remind eachother with each post as to what we  have, how we are using it, and general future interests/projects. The way the forum is growing, now up to 350 some odd members. I find it difficult to keep everyones machines sorted out in my head. I think it will make it much easier to have a reminder each time. I have actually had to go back & check out previous posts to see what machine they were referring to. It was ok when there were only 50 of us...but now it is becoming a challenge.
Great idea, thanks binnie

[B K Lahey]

I own an old lister(1927-J) and asked a question here about original colour, Guy was the only member who gave me an answer, and the correct one, the rest of the responses were off subject and no help to me. Like some one said earlier, the sign over the door is Lister, not gensets, diesel, listeroid, etc, lets keep it as a site to learn and help each other in our own interests, thats my two bobs worth.
   BK

[oldnslow]

I spent so much time in the Listeroid section that it seemed this was a "Listeroid" forum for a while. You go where your need takes you and each section has lots of great ideas. The value to the Listeroid folks (in my opinion) is to have the real Lister knowlege in conjunction with an extremely convenient world-wide meeting place to exchange ideas. A very valuable place if properly managed as Guy is trying to do.

I just hope the result of this discussion keeps all of us in constant mesh with little or no backlash.