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Re: Container shipping out of England
« Reply #60 on: October 21, 2011, 12:52:14 PM »
i have some pictures of container loading at my works posted by below link.

you can see pic of top/bottom lashing anchor inside the container. we uses 19mm strapping bands. these are rated at 4000kg breaking force.

in one of the pic, we have loaded 2 rows of steel column into the container. each is about 10000kg per row.

we load huge ibeam too and these are well packed with the steel strappings.

hope the pics give you guy some ideas on lashing etc.

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Re: Container shipping out of England
« Reply #61 on: October 21, 2011, 02:32:07 PM »
Ade:

You can buy the stillages for far less than you can have them made, we were paying about £10 per stillage for ones big enough to take almost any Lister engine, all we did was to revise the bottom two cross-members so that they matched the bolt hole widths on the engines, then we just drilled holes and bolted the engines in.

The ones I have in mind were stackable as well.....

I've got some pictures somewhere, I'll have a look tonight.

The plastics and window industries use longer versions of these for transporting extrusions.

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Re: Container shipping out of England
« Reply #62 on: October 21, 2011, 02:40:10 PM »
Ade:

You can buy the stillages for far less than you can have them made, we were paying about £10 per stillage for ones big enough to take almost any Lister engine, all we did was to revise the bottom two cross-members so that they matched the bolt hole widths on the engines, then we just drilled holes and bolted the engines in.

The ones I have in mind were stackable as well.....

I've got some pictures somewhere, I'll have a look tonight.

The plastics and window industries use longer versions of these for transporting extrusions.

Hi Peter,

That would be great - if you've got any contacts for stillages, please do PM or e-mail them over to me so I can make some enquiries. Modifying them is no problem.
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Re: Container shipping out of England
« Reply #63 on: October 21, 2011, 03:47:19 PM »
Go round your local factory estate and ask, there was a load at the local Caterpillar engine plant closure sale, I don't know if all the stuff was sold:

Peaker Pattinson (Auctioneers) Ltd

Catalogue - Formerly Used by Caterpillar Remanufacturing Services Ltd - Auction

Auction is today, nothing in there for us so didn't look at anything.

Might be worth a call to them after it is all over, they might be glad of a bit of clearance.

http://www.ppauctions.com/auction.php?id=47

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Re: Container shipping out of England
« Reply #64 on: October 21, 2011, 05:43:34 PM »
Here are three of the stillages (all the same basic type) that we used:







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Re: Container shipping out of England
« Reply #65 on: October 21, 2011, 08:59:11 PM »
Re the shipping weights:

5/1 and 6/1 flywheels were 24" and 25" diameter and 3-1/2" and 3-5/8" wide.

Later, the diameter was reduced to 23-5/8".

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Re: Container shipping out of England
« Reply #66 on: October 22, 2011, 05:51:11 PM »
We are investigating dropping and offloading the container in Houston (near the port)... a difficult unload will not be too welcome there, and neither is the concept of welding onto a container we do not own. The idea of bolting to the floor is excellent and workable if the container owner doesn't mind. I have hauled gensets this way before with bolts down to the floor - very stable.

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I would suspect that any "damage" to the container would incur additional (and after the fact) charges. In my (limited) experience, every party involved in these international shipments are looking for ways to charge more than the quoted price, caveat emptor. Additionally, if the engines are going to be transferred to US freight companies for shipment to their final destinations, they really need to be on pallets, as they may be transferred from truck to warehouse to truck along the way, as well as for stability purposes while in transit. Metal pallets would be best, if there is any wood that does not pass the import "smell" test, the entire shipment can be refused and returned to the UK...

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Re: Container shipping out of England
« Reply #67 on: October 22, 2011, 07:03:46 PM »
Thanks Mikey,

I am definitely in favor of the steel stillages if some can be found for the purpose...

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Re: Container shipping out of England
« Reply #68 on: October 23, 2011, 05:01:55 PM »
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Re: Container shipping out of England
« Reply #69 on: October 23, 2011, 06:23:04 PM »
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Are you looking for an engine or are you wanting to add your engine in on this shipment?
If you have one to ship
we will need to know the weight and location
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Re: Container shipping out of England
« Reply #70 on: October 23, 2011, 06:40:00 PM »
We also need serial number and ownership docs for our import paperwork Hotater. Ade is handling the U.K. logistics for us... we do have additional help available there if needed. I am compiling all load requests and paperwork on the USA side - best I can anyway.

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Re: Container shipping out of England
« Reply #71 on: October 26, 2011, 12:32:23 PM »
Dam Jack thought you went toeup....get that house done yet??????? ;D ;D ;D :o :o ;D
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Re: Container shipping out of England
« Reply #72 on: November 24, 2011, 01:23:07 AM »
Latest update on this effort, we are now collecting everything over to Mark Wilkinson's yard in Matlock. Mark has all the right equipment and knowledge to finalize collections and pack the container for us. Ade will be sending the stuff over that he has under his control, and hopefully we can get this finished without too much more delay.

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Re: Container shipping out of England
« Reply #73 on: November 30, 2011, 09:08:28 PM »
Well we now have a truck taking engines to Mark so he can get them in the Container >we still have a few engines at Blackpool that need to get to Mark!
Any one in Blackpool up for a little trucking job?
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Re: Container shipping out of England
« Reply #74 on: November 30, 2011, 09:20:52 PM »
Please speak directly with Ade on this! It is my understanding that this is already handled!

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