Container shipping out of England

[dieselgman]

Thanks for that Peter! These appear to be crated weights.

dieselgman

[listerdiesel]

Those were Net weights as noted on my post:

6/1  SOM gross weight packed 1934 lbs or 870 kgs
8/1  SOM gross weight packed 1795 lbs or 812 kgs
VA   SOM gross wight packed  1780 lbs or 805 kgs

Peter

[potter]

Why is the 6/1 SOM more weight than the 8/1 SOM ?? .
    Potter

[38ac]

Why is the 6/1 SOM more weight than the 8/1 SOM ?? .
    Potter

  Cast iron piston vs aluminum

[potter]

 Wow 200lb plus piston

[AdeV]

I spoke to my former landlords earlier - they are receptive to the idea of having up to a 40ft container on-site for 4 weeks (price TBA), which should be plenty of time to load it once the actual inventory is finalised.

There's also an excellent welder on-site who would be able to weld stay bars into the container if required, or hold-down hoops for strapping, etc. There's a fork-lift on-site which, but I don't think it'll fit in the container (the mast is too high), however, I have a pallet truck which could be used to navigate palleted engines into place. I think I can find a source of free pallets too, if someone can clarify the wood fumigation requirements.

Is the crating idea dead in the water now, or do you want me to try to find a crating company still?

[38ac]

Wow 200lb plus piston

  They are made of a very dense grade of iron. 

[OneBarfly]

I think I can find a source of free pallets too, if someone can clarify the wood fumigation requirements.

Helllo,

The skids would need to the the IPPC markings (pine tree sprig plus other letter or numbers). Read here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISPM_15

If the pallets are so marked (certifying heat treatment and fumigation) then you are good to go. Most newer pallets are compliant, just look for the marks.

[listerdiesel]

Why is the 6/1 SOM more weight than the 8/1 SOM ?? .
    Potter

Variety of things:

Skeleton Cylinder with studs outside
No compression change-over valve
Ali piston
Possibly ali rocker cover
Different base on the later ones, but still cast on early models

Flywheels are possibly lighter, can't find the details in the changed number book, but I believe that they are the main contributor to the weight difference. As the 8/1 runs faster, and assuming they kept the same pulley/flywheel on the alternator, then the flywheels could be smaller in diameter compared with the 6/1 SOM version.

Flywheels aren't listed in the 8/1 16/2 parts book.

Alternator is also lighter by virtue of revised design.

Peter

[dieselgman]

Ade, the overall stacking idea appears to be dead... with a 40' we will run up against weight restrictions, not volume constraints. For protection, I would still recommend investigating crating for that show engine and any others that are reconditioned and cannot be scuffed or bumped without damage.

And a big "Thanks All" for posting all the helpful information here, there is a lot that goes into shipping these days!

dieselgman

[AdeV]

The skids would need to the the IPPC markings (pine tree sprig plus other letter or numbers). Read here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISPM_15

If the pallets are so marked (certifying heat treatment and fumigation) then you are good to go. Most newer pallets are compliant, just look for the marks.

Brilliant, thank you! I'll have a look around the pallets I'm already using; there is a company just up the road who sell new pallets, if I can't find any marked pallets I'll ask them for a quote for a bunch of new, treated, pallets.

[AdeV]

Hmm, just a thought....

Rather than pallets, I could get my tame welder to weld studs onto the container floor, each engine could then be firmly bolted down. I know SOM bases will take up to 1" bolts, not sure what a standard CS will take but I can find out; this would probably be cheaper than palleting, and we could pack more engines in - at the expense of making it more difficult to load/unload...

Thoughts?

[dieselgman]

We are investigating dropping and offloading the container in Houston (near the port)... a difficult unload will not be too welcome there, and neither is the concept of welding onto a container we do not own. The idea of bolting to the floor is excellent and workable if the container owner doesn't mind. I have hauled gensets this way before with bolts down to the floor - very stable.

dieselgman

[listerdiesel]

Steel stillages are also useful, you can pre-fit them with the engines and board the sides if you have small loose bits to ship.

Peter

[AdeV]

That's a great idea Peter; I can get the welder to make custom steel pallets on-spec, adding sides for the loose stuff wouldn't be too difficult; and I can spec custom sizes for the bigger engines. Steel pallets could be tack-welded to the container floor to prevent movement, it would only take a few moments with a grinder to free them off - the container wouldn't be damaged as a result of that. Best of all, the steel pallets could be sold off for scrap (or maybe even ebay/craigslisted as useful items) at the other end which would defray the cost somewhat.