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xyzer

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Re: Need starter and filter ideas
« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2007, 03:28:44 AM »
Guys,
I'm thinking of doing the 12v friction wheel starter with a handle and a solenoid button on the end of the handle. Hold it against the flywheel and push the button, I think my wife might be able to do it except it is still mechanical! I'm looking for a common starter with a open type bendix that can be removed so there is just the shaft coming out of the starter. No bendix housing and bearing support. Basically looking for just a 12v motor without the bendix. I had a 51 MGTD that was that way but not to common now days! Any suggestions!
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Re: Need starter and filter ideas
« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2007, 04:06:38 AM »
the ones I see most of the time are the ford starters from the 80 s because it has a long shaft to mount the friction wheel and also it is cheap and very available/sid
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Re: Need starter and filter ideas
« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2007, 04:31:55 AM »
Dave,
I'm sure there are a thousand ways to start a roid.  I chose to duplicate a truck flywhee-starter arrangement mostly because I know so little about the options.  I figure in 100 years of auto design mabe they learned something.  When I'm ignorant I KISS.
I'd sure like to see how other methods work, too.  Good luck, keep us posted.
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Re: Need starter and filter ideas
« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2010, 04:32:35 AM »
I've been looking for starter ideas myself lately. Read this thread and did some other web searches and wanted to report back a couple of things.

It's been mentioned that Ford starters have a long shaft -- useful for the rubber roller method against a listeroid flywheel. Sometimes people have specified the year as 1980. Actually the starter with the long shaft was used prior to 1963 in V-8 engines.

Also, here's a link to a great set of pictures for a portable rubber roller starter motor type:

http://www.herculesengines.com/starter/

I've sent for an old Ford starter motor through Ebay, and a solenoid. Will be making up the rubber roller and lever similar to the one shown in the link.

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Re: Need starter and filter ideas
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2010, 03:35:59 AM »
Haven't used the hand crank since I did this install. http://listerengine.com/smf/index.php?topic=4299.msg52147#msg52147
 I found it was simpler to mount the ring gear on the generator than the engine also it's easier on the starter with the added mechanical advantage of the belt drive reduction.
 Minimal fabrication easy install, cheap.

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Re: Need starter and filter ideas
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2011, 09:00:38 AM »
If it hasn't been said already, get a toilet paper bypass filter such as the Frantz and add a small gear pump to circulate the oil through the filter.  1/16" inlet is standard to prevent over-pressurization of the filter.  No better or cheaper filtration out there.

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Re: Need starter and filter ideas
« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2011, 03:17:16 PM »
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Re: Need starter and filter ideas
« Reply #37 on: February 05, 2011, 06:31:30 PM »
What I finally ended up with...............

View of the starter
 

View of the starter pedal and switches
 
 
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Now that I have 12v I added a 12v fan and adjustable thermostat.

                     
No more KISS.............Here is the thing in action…….
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Re: Need starter and filter ideas
« Reply #38 on: February 05, 2011, 07:03:53 PM »
XYZER, Sweet. What starter did you use?
Dave
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