Steve:
well to boil it down a bit further
"it depends on what we as a population are willing to do about it, or rather what are we
willing to live without, just in case this is man made?"
if it means particulate control on smoke stacks, fine !!
i don't think you will find many that will argue against that
if it means making and effort to use AE where it is reasonable to do so, fine!
not many against that either...
however
if it means i have to submit to some beurocrat telling me that i cannot build a house the way i see fit
without the states blessing, and build it to california codes, and submit to energy audits, and get energy star
ratings and all that bullshit, then i say screw you and the horse you road in on.
because that is what you will be using for transportation
i don't believe we should go around crapping in our nest, and we should make every effort to keep things
as clean as we can, but
we don't take draconian measures based on incomplete or faulty science, most especially when the rest of the
developing world has said screw that and will do as they please, and when we are in an economic crisis
to do so will only hasten our demise into being a 2nd world country, if not a 3rd.
i dunno, maybe i am getting too friggin old, but i still remember the 70's where we were all going to freeze to death
in an impending iceage. listen to them and you would be out sprinkling carbon all over everything white and every reflective surface.
all i am saying is, we don't have anywhere near enough data to form any real conclusions
and to think we as part of this system have any control over it is the epitome of arrogance in my opinion
the only way we are going to screw up this planet on a global scale is if we light off every nuke in the arsenals
even then it is likely that 50 years later the planet will be green again, plants and animals will flourish, and maybe
there will be a few of our species to start all over again.
those that survive will not be the tree huggers, bug lovers,or burkenstock wearers
all this stress and freaking out the public about global warming is nothing more than chicken little and the sky is
falling, playing to an unthinking public that is easily convinced of an impending doom and that which can be parted
with their dollars.
for godsakes this is algore's baby, doesn't anyone see a credibility problem here?
oh ya, i forgot he invented the internet!
i guess that makes him a global climate expert? afterall he got the nobel prize? so it has to be fact right?
good lord, have we as a people become so gullible?
i sure am glad i am on the downhill side of this journey, and not just starting out in my early 20's
i feel sorry for the younger folks that are never going to know what we have lost.
if this cap and trade/tax thing passes and they inflict this national california standards on all new construction
you guys will probably hear about some crazy old bastard that went down in a hail of gunfire as they burn me out
of my non conforming structure.
because i will build it and it will be built to my standards, and they can kiss my sagging old ass.
btw, as a parting shot
check out scientific american, they have ran a few articles on the global warming thing, and how it isn't happening
based on several hundreds of ocean temp sensors placed all over the planet
they site work form hundreds of research centers, that have tried in vain to get the word out, but
can't be heard because there is no money in it.
all the money has been placed "all in" with the global warming scam.
its late, i am tired, it is july and i am freezing my ass off here in tacoma,, guess i will go
throw another tire on the fire and go to bed.
bob g