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Soot - how to remove it
« on: February 10, 2009, 10:45:57 PM »
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Re: Soot - how to remove it
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2009, 11:30:29 PM »
Ewwww.... diesel soot. How icky.

For hands you need something gritty:
http://www.lavasoap.com/
http://www.gojo.com/product/product.asp?productid=4


For clothes:
http://www.bendavis.com/catalog_coveralls.htm
Don't wear light colored clothes to work on engines.

And good old brake cleaner works good for removing some types of stains from some clothes. Be careful not to melt your polyester suit with it.
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Re: Soot - how to remove it
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2009, 11:50:45 PM »
The soaps and cleaners with the pumice in it works IMMENSELY better than the non gritty stuff. It doesn't really abrade much skin off, but it sure helps get the black stuff out of the pores.

The brake cleaner shouldn't hurt cotton. I've used it to degrease many t-shirts. But it will destroy some synthetic fabrics.
Remember it's flammable, so don't soak clothes with it and toss 'em in the washer or dryer. (risk of explosion!)
Soaking the affected area with brake cleaner then using an air hose to blow the juice (and stain) out works pretty well.
Do outside in a well ventilated area!
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Re: Soot - how to remove it
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2009, 01:25:27 AM »
For hands wipe with veg oil before and after. soak the soot, oil, grease spots with veg oil and toss the clothes in the wash. the veg oil lifts the grime out of the fiber/skin then the soap removes the crud.
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Re: Soot - how to remove it
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2009, 01:44:36 AM »
been using the fast orange with cornshucks in it for years, it works very well
another hot tip, before you work on the listeroid, use vasoline on your hands, and rub it in well
it helps to seal the pores and makes cleaning much easier.

CRC red brakleener is non flammable and takes grease out very well, although as mentioned it is hard on
synthetic fibers,, but i have used it to remove grease from carpets and it works excellent, wet it down and scrub
the grease out fast with white paper towels.

those latex gloves are a godsend if you don't have an allergy to latex.

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Re: Soot - how to remove it
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2009, 02:33:46 AM »

those latex gloves are a godsend if you don't have an allergy to latex.

bob g

Amen brother!
I keep a box in the house and a box in the shop. The hard part is remembering to use them. Sometimes I'm just gonna "do some little thing" that shouldn't be messy, and the next thing I know I'm elbow deep in grease and wishing I'd slipped a pair of gloves on first.  sigh...
Oh well, that's what gritty orange hand cleaner is for.  ;D
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Re: Soot - how to remove it
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2009, 02:40:04 AM »
Soot is mostly carbon, mixed with a little oil.  Soap will break down the oil, but carbon is very very stable.  Once it gets in your pores, it's there for a long time.  I once had a laser printer cartridge "explode" on me.  Not a pretty sight  :o  Took a looooong time to get the black edges removed.
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Re: Soot - how to remove it
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2009, 03:58:29 AM »
OK this  'ol mechanics secret hand cleaning trick. Use the grit hand soap first. Then wash the family dishes by hand in hot soapy water. Repeat as needed. You will know when you are good enough by her approval. :-*
If you ever put diesel soaked carboned up clothing in her washer you will never get this approval. :(
Buy cheap surplus coveralls, and use them, and when a load accumulates sneak them into a commercial Laundromat and pay the price to retain your sweeties approval.  ;)
No tetra/petraclorethylene brake clean required. The stains just show "the BOSS" you are actually working and to keep out of your hair.  ;D

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Re: Soot - how to remove it
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2009, 04:01:53 AM »
LOL.  There has to be a joke in here somewhere about leaving or cleaning one's 'carbon footprint'.   ;D
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Re: Soot - how to remove it
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2009, 05:31:41 AM »
funny that coveralls were mentioned, there is a thing known by all mobile service mechanics here in the pac nw
you never wash them! ok,, maybe not never but certainly not during the worst of the rainy season
all that grease and oil makes a great water repellant, wash them and they make a fantastic sponge, adding
about 20 lbs to an already tired body when they get wet.

when it is time to wash them the trick is using enough laundry soap, and i mean enough!

you use hot water of course, start the machine agitating and add cup after cup of soap until you start to see suds develop
my coveralls have taken as many as 15 cups of Tide detergent before the grease and oil is overrun and suds start to develop

if you use this method the machine will come out clean and not leave a nasty oil scum all over the tub.

that took me many years to figure out, it was probably 20 years of washing them 3 and 4 times and still finding them
oily and greasy and having my head handed to me when the wife found the machine destroyed from me doing my laundry.

my coveralls are so thick with grease and oil that i swear they could walk away if i gave them half a chance.

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Re: Soot - how to remove it
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2009, 07:51:22 AM »
Nobody has seemed to remember your exhaust is about umpteen metres away from your engine (which is inside?).  3 metres and you must be having a smoky exhaust leak. Fix that.  Your face is probably getting it as well?  Or your arms are incredibly long?

As SteveUu says wash the dishes and then she probably won't even notice it.

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Re: Soot - how to remove it
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2009, 09:47:09 AM »

those latex gloves are a godsend if you don't have an allergy to latex.

bob g

Amen brother!
I keep a box in the house and a box in the shop. The hard part is remembering to use them. Sometimes I'm just gonna "do some little thing" that shouldn't be messy, and the next thing I know I'm elbow deep in grease and wishing I'd slipped a pair of gloves on first.  sigh...
Oh well, that's what gritty orange hand cleaner is for.  ;D

Best gloves are the blue nitrile type , heavy duty variety. Little tip , when doing heavy work wear two pairs , they don't tear so easily then.
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Re: Soot - how to remove it
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2009, 03:14:49 AM »
Liquid Dial handsoap w/ a dash of Tide powder is a very good grease remover and pretty good soot remover... either by themselves ain't worth crap, magic happens when they are mixed.

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Re: Soot - how to remove it
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2009, 03:24:47 AM »
Jens: I'm disappointed that my method did not work! I was in field service and wore a suit and tie every day from 1976 till 1986 when suit and ties fell out of favor. Even after that I was in grease, oil, photographic chemicals, and the mung associated with medical xray.
changed clothes and washed every day as I worked in half a dozen places a day from vetrinary office and barns to cardiac surgury and more. Some were concerned with sterile enviorments :) Wifey used original Tide and soaked the spots with genaric veg oil, she did just the spots and soaked for 5 to ten minutes or more before washing on the hot cycle. I do not know what happened in your case , and I hope I did not cause you any grief! She uses the same methods today on my (our) 12/2 listroid. Very low intermittent hours, stock exhaust.
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Re: Soot - how to remove it
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2009, 07:26:08 PM »
Don't know what to do about the clothes but the best thing i have tried for degreasing hands is automatic transmission fluid. ever see a transmission mechanic with dirty hands or an auto trans that was dirty inside ? be prepared to use lotion afterwards cause it will pull the natural oils out too!
       

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