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Easy frequency/speed monitoring
« on: January 10, 2009, 01:46:22 PM »
just FYI.  If anyone is looking for an easy way to implement an over/under frequency/speed shutdown, you might want to consider a Timemark(tm) Model 292.  It has programmable lo/high freq setpoints with a dry contact output.  I've used tons of their devices and have had great luck.
I'm going to be using one of these when I build my permanent generator shed to control a starter (ie: giant relay) to connect/disconnect generator output to my house as well as for an overspeed shutdown.
http://time-mark.com/products.php?id=49

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Re: Easy frequency/speed monitoring
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2009, 03:12:05 PM »
What do you mean when you refer to a "dry contact output"?  Is this a non-wetted (as in non-mercury) relay closure contact?
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Re: Easy frequency/speed monitoring
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2009, 03:14:27 PM »
I recently discovered through a huge momentary overload, that when the output frequency of my VW power plant goes to zero, the engine shuts itself off automatically!  This even though I did not bother installing under frequency auto shutdown.  Can someone please explain to me how this is possible?   ;)
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Re: Easy frequency/speed monitoring
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2009, 03:31:45 PM »
Correct - "dry contact" refers to a mechanical contact closure - ie: relays.

Insufficient info to even make a guess on the VW issue.  Must be *something* involved if it's really a shutdown on frequency...

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Re: Easy frequency/speed monitoring
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2009, 03:39:50 PM »
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"I recently discovered through a huge momentary overload, that when the output frequency of my VW power plant goes to zero, the engine shuts itself off automatically!  This even though I did not bother installing under frequency auto shutdown.  Can someone please explain to me how this is possible? "

Insufficient HP!  ;D 

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Re: Easy frequency/speed monitoring
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2009, 04:50:51 PM »
What do you mean when you refer to a "dry contact output"?  Is this a non-wetted (as in non-mercury) relay closure contact?

In the industrial controls world, "dry contact" means a relay contact that is electrically isolated from the power source that controls it--as opposed to an output device which supplies power from an internal source when it is turned on.

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Re: Easy frequency/speed monitoring
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2009, 03:38:58 PM »
Cool product. Any idea what it costs? I didn't see anything listed.


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Re: Easy frequency/speed monitoring
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2009, 04:09:17 PM »
Cool product. Any idea what it costs? I didn't see anything listed.

The Time Mark Voltage/Frequency Monitor (Model 2962) costs approximately $300. 

http://www.byramlabs.com/product_info.php/products_id/8416

I believe the Time Mark Frequency Monitor (Model 292) costs approximately $200.  For me, using a voltage sensor relay for overspeed protection was preferable because of the much smaller package and lower cost.