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Re: Changfa engine?
« Reply #30 on: November 19, 2008, 03:24:11 PM »
I have a Yanmar TS50C that I'll call a Changfaoid. Does that count?

You're saying you have a Sear's poncho?[/color]

edit:  That was a Frank Zappa quote regarding clones and wannabees.  His entire sentence was ," Is that a Mexican poncho or a Sear's poncho?

Roverjohn, is your Yanmar TS50C a real poncho ( actual clone of liquid cooled Changfa engine type) or not even?  I know Kubota markets a couple of small horizontal liquid cooled diesel engines. one is a twin cylinder that copy the horizontal design of the Changfa which seems to be considered in many forums a German engine design.  I wonder if this is in fact true as well or just folklore.
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Re: Changfa engine?
« Reply #31 on: November 19, 2008, 03:25:19 PM »
anybody know of a changfa forum?

if not we need to start one!

:)

bob g

I second that. Maybe something like this on the main board

Changfa engines
Changfa clones
changfa market place

just a suggestion, is some one going to run this past Andrew to see what he thinks?

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« Reply #32 on: November 19, 2008, 04:28:35 PM »
wow,,  its a groundswell,,,

a movement....


we got 4 out of the closet and into the daylight

what do we need? a 12 step program?

"hello my name is bob, and i am a changfa addict"

(all together now)

"Hello Bob"

:)

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Re: Changfa engine?
« Reply #33 on: November 19, 2008, 09:44:28 PM »
anybody know of a changfa forum?

if not we need to start one!

:)

bob g

I second that. Maybe something like this on the main board

Changfa engines
Changfa clones
changfa market place

just a suggestion, is some one going to run this past Andrew to see what he thinks?

Might I expand upon this and present these categories:

Changfa engines (the real McCoy. Loud and Proud!  8) )
Changfa clones (JiangDong, ?)
Chinese variants incl. air cooled verticals (Yanmar, ?)
Changfa theme market place
-DIY 1.5L NA VW diesel genset - 9 kW 3-phase. Co-gen, dual  fuel
- 1966, Petter PJ-1, 5 kW air cooled diesel standby lighting plant
-DIY JD175A, minimum fuel research genset.
-Changfa 1115
-6 HP Launtop air cooled diesel
-Want Lister 6/1
-Large DIY VAWT nearing completion

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Re: Changfa engine?
« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2008, 09:46:11 PM »
wow,,  its a groundswell,,,

a movement....


we got 4 out of the closet and into the daylight

what do we need? a 12 step program?

"hello my name is bob, and i am a changfa addict"

(all together now)

"Hello Bob"

:)

bob g

"Hello Bob"   :D
-DIY 1.5L NA VW diesel genset - 9 kW 3-phase. Co-gen, dual  fuel
- 1966, Petter PJ-1, 5 kW air cooled diesel standby lighting plant
-DIY JD175A, minimum fuel research genset.
-Changfa 1115
-6 HP Launtop air cooled diesel
-Want Lister 6/1
-Large DIY VAWT nearing completion

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Re: Changfa engine?
« Reply #35 on: November 20, 2008, 01:39:16 AM »
I have a Yanmar TS50C that I'll call a Changfaoid. Does that count?
I know Kuboda markets a couple of small horizontal liquid cooled diesel engines. one is a twin cylinder that copy the horizontal design of the Changfa which seems to be considered in many forums a German engine design.  I wonder if this is in fact true as well or just folklore.

I wonder if my Kubota EL300A-R falls into this category....?
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Re: Changfa engine?
« Reply #36 on: November 20, 2008, 02:01:33 AM »
anybody know of a changfa forum?

if not we need to start one!

:)

bob g

I second that. Maybe something like this on the main board

Changfa engines
Changfa clones
changfa market place

just a suggestion, is some one going to run this past Andrew to see what he thinks?

Might I expand upon this and present these categories:

Changfa engines (the real McCoy. Loud and Proud!  8) )
Changfa clones (JiangDong, ?)
Chinese variants incl. air cooled verticals (Yanmar, ?)
Changfa theme market place


Mine is not an air cooled vertical and by the way how dare you? It's a real McCoy horizontal water cooled. Just like a Changfa but probably designed before the Changfa and likely better built as Yanmar claims they did this sort of thing first. If you look at the various YouTube videos of Yanmar marine diesels it looks just like them except horizontal. I'm pretty sure I'm in as your Changfas are really Yanmaroids.

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Re: Changfa engine?
« Reply #37 on: November 20, 2008, 03:11:32 AM »
i refuse to believe that!!!

mine is a kubotoid!!

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Re: Changfa engine?
« Reply #38 on: November 20, 2008, 03:12:40 AM »
Here's a link to the new model TF series:
http://www.yanmar.com/store/index.asp?DEPARTMENT_ID=54
Mines a TS so it's a little more old timey.
I'll get a picture up tomorrow.

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Re: Changfa engine?
« Reply #39 on: November 20, 2008, 03:15:37 AM »
Count this genuine changfa fan in - I think I have eight changfas. Does this qualify me as a changfa fan??  I also own a couple of changfoids.

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Re: Changfa engine?
« Reply #40 on: November 20, 2008, 03:39:53 AM »
Fred:

you have been a member of this board for 2.5 years and this is your 4th post?

wow, talk about being under represented here??

btw, yes you qualify!

after you reported owning so many, i thought i would take stock of the changfa's i have

(3) -3.5 aircooled
(1)  4.5 aircooled
(2)  r175 water cooled
(1)  r185 water cooled
(2) s195 water cooled
(3)  s195 water cooled changfoid

that i can think of off the top of my head.

looking back at my list,, hmmm thats just sick!

yes we need a support group, and a 12 step program!

lol
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Re: Changfa engine?
« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2008, 03:54:54 AM »
Oooops I lied!  I have 10 genuine changfas and two changfoids.
(1) 165f air cooled
(1) r165
(2) 195
(1) 1100
(1) 1110
(6) 1115

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Re: Changfa engine?
« Reply #42 on: November 20, 2008, 04:04:54 AM »
how does that 1100 look?

is it direct injected?

and is it physically the same size outside as the 195?
or is it somewhere between the 195 and the 1115 in outer dimensions?

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Re: Changfa engine?
« Reply #43 on: November 20, 2008, 04:16:57 AM »
Bob g - Its in between the 195 and 1110 but it is physically a lot bigger than the 195's. The 1100, 1110 and 1115 are much bigger. The 1100 is idi, 1110 and 1115 are di. You have seen my 1110 already - remember the pix I sent you a couple weeks ago - its dressed as a john deere coupled to a 10kw st head complete with decals.

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Re: Changfa engine?
« Reply #44 on: November 20, 2008, 04:22:00 AM »
are you that "FRED"??

:)

cool!

hard to keep up with who is who sometimes

btw, the john deere green unit is cool!

also, can you check the spare head gskt in your 195 kit, and tell me how big the bore hole is?
there seems to be two differing ones, on sits on a flat topped liner and the larger fits over the step on the liner

3.75" and 4.25" inch approx

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