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jzeeff

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Portable external oil filtration
« on: July 17, 2008, 01:08:04 AM »
I was reading that there are large ( 50%) benefits in terms of engine wear reduction by filtering oil down to small sizes.  That was for trucks that I assume work in much dustier conditions, but even so, there should be some benefit for stationary engines.   I have a variety of small engines and can't put better filtration on all of them.  Some are only splash lubricated.    I don't want to go crazy with frequent oil changes either. 

My thought was to build a small portable oil filtration system that I could use now and then on an engine when it is not operating.  Basically a small pump (an electric fuel pump?) and a good 5 micron bypass type filter.  Two little tubes that can  stick into the crankcase and it would suck the oil out, filter it, and put it back.  Should all fit in a lunch box.  Maybe add a timer so I don't have to remember to turn it off. 

Is this worth doing?  Maybe it would only work when the oil was hot.








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Re: Portable external oil filtration
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2008, 07:15:13 AM »
 jzeeff,

Presumably most of these small engines use non-detergent oil?  Particularly the splash lubed ones? Presumably you are not using these all the time? 

Then they were designed that way and will run and last perfectly well as they are.  Why not drain all the oil and filter it before returning it to the sumps. 

While empty you can remove the sediment from each sump as the original documents instructed.  If you are using detergent oil  a lot of the contaminants will be kept in suspension.  But also remember modern lubricants are/can be far(?) superior to those in the distant past.

If they are old engines they would have neeeded frequent oil changes due to chemical contamination of the oil using fuels of the day.

Remember also truck engines are much more highly stressed (specific BHP), have closer mechanical tolerances and pressure-lubed thin wall bearings.  Different engine characteristics allltogether.  Dustier conditions should be irrelevant.  If dust gets into an engine it will play havoc with the internals.  Air cleaners and sealed breathers are prerequisites for keeping dust out.

Your small portable engine oil filter might fit in a lunch box - I do not know how big your lunch box might be - but I doubt it.

Furthermore, checking magnetic sump plugs at regular intervals is a good way to note any abnormal or increased wear.  Not changing the oil is going to miss that simple check.

I would add, too, that you gave no reference as to whether tha claim was by a user or by the supplier.  If it was a supplier advertising their wares, I would be looking to se if it says 'up to'  50%.  Reading needs quite a bit of interpretation at times.

My thoughts - follow the engine makers recommendations but take into account all the other factors which may have changed since those instructions were issued, but above all, do it right.

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Re: Portable external oil filtration
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2008, 09:47:43 PM »

I use synthetic detergent oil in everything.

Here is a similar reference about wear reduction:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQH/is_5_49/ai_n26899051


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Re: Portable external oil filtration
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2008, 11:10:18 PM »
I use synthetic detergent oil in everything.

Your choice.  Your oil may well be chemically trashed long before it is degraded molecularly.

Not knowing what, and how, and why, we are only guessing.  If you know all the answers why bother asking us?  Go ahead.  Let us all know how much it saves you.  A good long term project. 

BTW, Are you going to use your old lunch box for this and buy a new one for your lunch? :)

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Re: Portable external oil filtration
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2008, 01:41:52 AM »

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Re: Portable external oil filtration
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2008, 02:50:40 AM »
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Two-wheel cart is easy to maneuver and includes a cart-mounted On/Off switch. Measures 25 1/2L x 19W x 40 1/2"H.

Just how much do you eat for lunch???? ;D

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Re: Portable external oil filtration
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2008, 03:14:34 PM »

They use a cart to wheel my lunch in and then use the same cart to wheel me out. :-[

I disagree about dust in the oil - air filters are not perfect and dust (silica) does get into the engine and the oil.  The writeups I've seen indicate that abrasive silica particles in the oil  are why you need to change the oil at xxx hours/miles.  Other aspects of the oil are usually ok.  Standard full flow oil filters don't filter out the finer particles.