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How much "slobber" is too much "slobber"?
« on: June 20, 2008, 01:46:50 AM »
Have always had what I believed to be a reasonable amount of roid slobber - wipe it down once and a while - no worries.  However lately, with longer, daily running, I'm seeing more slobber - particularly around the camshaft end cover.

Is this nothing to worry about - just keep wiping up - or should this issue be addressed?

Thoughts, as always, greatly appreciated.

Cheers, Fred

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Re: How much "slobber" is too much "slobber"?
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2008, 04:54:05 AM »
That is not slobber, that is leakage.  Slobber is liquid oil comming out of the exhaust, usually caused by rings not seating properly, toohigh an oil level causing excessive internal splash and not running the engine under enough load to keep the rings seated.

As for your oil situation, what condition is your breather check valve in?  If it is working normally, any positive pressure should be vented thru that reed/plate valve and every time the piston rises, a slight vacume should be pulled on the case, helping to keep any oil from leaking out at any of the seals.  If that valve isn't flowing outward freely, positive pressure could be building up in the case, forcing oil out at any possible leak point. 
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Re: How much "slobber" is too much "slobber"?
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2008, 07:34:48 AM »
In addition to what Ron says, I will add that joints should not leak.  The crankcase pressure reduction is to prevent oil exiting through seals.

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Re: How much "slobber" is too much "slobber"?
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2008, 01:53:49 AM »
Without pictures, it's worth considering if it might be a fuel leak.

It was recently discovered that not all of the 'shine' on a lister was in fact engine oil.  Using torch light whilst shutting it down, a faint mist was noticed.  Tracked it down to a hair line crack just above the injector pump.  Local mechanic brass welded the line good as new.  Improved its fuel economy and made it run quieter.

In answer to your question:
If the leak is minor doesn't bother you, then it's okay.  Besides, if you've ever owned a series Land Rover, you'll know that it's impossible to stop them leaking oil.

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Re: How much "slobber" is too much "slobber"?
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2008, 03:53:15 AM »
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a slight vacume should be pulled on the case,

Sadly, that's not the case with the twins :'( .With one piston up and one down the crankcase is at positive pressure all of the time. A good gasket sealant should take care of most of it, but it'll probably never be oil tight.
I had toyed with the idea of putting the slight induction vacuum into the crankcase, but that's unlikely to happen now as I no longer have any practical use for the roid ( after 18 years off grid I'm moving back to suburbia ??? ???)

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Brian

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Re: How much "slobber" is too much "slobber"?
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2008, 02:56:08 PM »
  why??? :o :o        Hope all is well....
« Last Edit: June 23, 2008, 02:58:15 PM by wrightkiller »

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Re: How much "slobber" is too much "slobber"?
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2008, 03:26:23 AM »
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if you've ever owned a series Land Rover

or a Jag, or a BSA... or almost anything made in the UK .... ;D

and yes, I'm a pom/ limey ::)

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Hope all is well....

Thanks for your concern, all is indeed well . I'm getting too old/fat/lazy to live in the bush anymore.I'll have a look inside the 12/2 and then put it up for sale in the marketplace. Remember I'm in Queensland, OZ !
I'll hang on to the ST and eventually put it on the 10/2 as a backup.We haven't even moved into the new place and we've had 2 power cuts already (in the last month). Haven't had a power cut for 18 years!!! >:( >:(

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Re: How much "slobber" is too much "slobber"?
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2008, 12:38:22 PM »
Snail,
from Queensland eh? Great!
About time I noticed some other fello Aussies lurking around these here pages! ;D

Are your CS units original? Or did you get Indian Listeroids from Sam Warne?

Matt

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Re: How much "slobber" is too much "slobber"?
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2008, 04:24:05 PM »
And I am from Canada.....

Why else would I be typing in this outrages French accent!
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Re: How much "slobber" is too much "slobber"?
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2008, 02:03:20 AM »
And I'm from across the ditch Matt/Snail.

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Re: How much "slobber" is too much "slobber"?
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2008, 02:19:52 AM »
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Are your CS units original? Or did you get Indian Listeroids from Sam Warne?

One of each :)

A 12/2 powerline from Sam and a 1941 10/2 Dursley item which has nearly complete after the mother of all rebuilds. Boy, a good Indian 'roid can be a helluva lot easier than rebuilding a knackered original !

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this outrages French accent!

I'd swap any accent for the one I'm currently typing in. ;D. For those in the know, Burton on Trent .With me now? :-[

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And I'm from across the ditch Matt/Snail.

So are we talking Devil Or Kiwi?

Come to think of it, Hands up all members "down under". While we're at it, I lived in Johannesburg for a few years. Anyone from South Africa? We need a bit of southern hemisphere to balance things up on this forum!

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Re: How much "slobber" is too much "slobber"?
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2008, 08:00:48 AM »
Grew up in Iowa and people tell me I have an accent ???
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Re: How much "slobber" is too much "slobber"?
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2008, 01:57:08 AM »
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And I'm from across the ditch Matt/Snail.

So are we talking Devil Or Kiwi?
Kiwi

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Re: How much "slobber" is too much "slobber"?
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2008, 03:06:51 AM »
Pony,
      So you're probably at work like me, killing time! (I'm allowed to -  self employed ;D)
Statistically, I suppose you're on the North Island; I've only seen the South island but my God, it's beautiful!

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Brian

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Re: How much "slobber" is too much "slobber"?
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2008, 03:29:32 AM »
Every time I see this thread title I think that it depends what kind of dog you have. A St Bernard will have much more slobber than a chihuahua.
Tom
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