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Re: OT - but sorta related - US national Debt
« Reply #60 on: July 11, 2006, 06:45:03 PM »
was thinking....ouch!

but given our poor military response to the aircraft hijackings in 01, the failure to use the collected intelligence at that point,

and our wide open borders in the south....

doesn't anyone find it kinda odd that we haven't be zapped, whacked, fried or infected at this point?

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« Reply #61 on: July 11, 2006, 07:34:49 PM »
was thinking....ouch!

but given our poor military response to the aircraft hijackings in 01, the failure to use the collected intelligence at that point,

and our wide open borders in the south....

doesn't anyone find it kinda odd that we haven't be zapped, whacked, fried or infected at this point?

I dunno where I read or heard this, it's probably just urban legend or wishful thinking.
But the story goes that W sent a back-channel message to the Saudis, with the intention of spreading the word to muslims worldwide.

"Hit us again, and we'll vaporize Mecca, Medina, and keep going until y'all run out of holy cities."

Or my peronal favorite, that the U.S. already has a nuke buried and ready to detonate in Mecca, or (pick a city)

If it's not true, it ought to be.

But ask yourself, how scared would the mullahs be if Gore was in the White House?   What's that? Not very?

Exactly.

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« Reply #62 on: July 12, 2006, 02:39:41 PM »
o not only was the war unnecessary, it was painfully mismanaged.

Study history.

It actually looks like it was acutely well managed.

"mismanagement" assumes the end result aimed for was a stable modern society.

The impression I've had throughout is that what everyone here wants (just like africa) is everyone there fighting themselves.
 

Words of such a clear truth are rarely spoken! Well said!

The intent is not so different for the US gen pop as far as big G is concerned be it from a "republican" or "democratic" point of view.

When the gen pop unifies, the over riding force is love, love which is not condusive to you becoming exceedingly wealthier than me or easily dictating  my actions.

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« Reply #63 on: July 12, 2006, 02:55:33 PM »
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Firebrick  I know how we can help the national debt, demand repayment of the loans the us made to britian from ww2 and ww1 that they have yet to repay and havent made payments in many years.  Also they can repay 120 dollars to the United States Marine Corps for a set of issued boots that the damn limey bastards stole while I was taking a shower. Tongue
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Guy Fawlks- actually, this debt was paid off finally earlier this year.
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Wrong, The world war 2 debt is actually going to be paid off in December 31st of this year, but it was only about 10 percent of the amount that the US gave the british, we forgave the rest, stupid us. 

The world war 1 debt is still unpaid and your country isnt even attempting repayment. 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4757181.stm

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« Reply #64 on: July 12, 2006, 02:58:10 PM »
"But ask yourself, how scared would the mullahs be if Gore was in the White House? "

precisely, and besides

we would all be living in a "LOCKED BOX"

i really don't see why procrustes is going on and on with this insane thread, it won't be long and the mantle of power will shift his
way, and he will see first hand how things while they appear to be changing really are just different flavors of the same ole thing.

maybe we will get his hero, hillary, if so
we better all move offgrid, and be fully independant/self sufficient.

we will have higher taxes, unemployment will skyrocket, recession will come home to roost, the guys in uniform will be treated like doorman again (anyone remember that?), there will be a premature pullout of iraq (leaving that country to collapse),

gasoline will be banned, we will be driving battery powered cars, tree's will be hugged ....

and i will be just as miserable as mr procrustes

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Re: OT - but sorta related - US national Debt
« Reply #65 on: July 12, 2006, 04:20:50 PM »
My one and ONLY post on this thread.

I get a kick out of conservatives who also claim to be firm believers in uncontrolled capitalism.  Capitalism is THE most powerful anticonservative force on the planet.  Just look at what happens to any mature native population that is introduced to capitalism.
What most conservatives really want to maintain is the balance of power.
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« Reply #66 on: July 12, 2006, 04:59:23 PM »
The key word there is "uncontrolled".
Mistakes are the cost of tuition.

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Re: OT - but sorta related - US national Debt
« Reply #67 on: July 12, 2006, 05:29:25 PM »
"But ask yourself, how scared would the mullahs be if Gore was in the White House? "

precisely, and besides

I'm not so sure.  We do have all our military might bogged down in a country that used to have very little to do with Islamic jihad, unlike say Saudi Arabia or Iran.  Iran isn't acting scared.

we would all be living in a "LOCKED BOX"

What do you mean?  Gore would have taken away more civil liberties than Bush?

Incidentally I just read something interesting about US data mining tactics: http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/07/terrorists_data.html.

i really don't see why procrustes is going on and on with this insane thread, it won't be long and the mantle of power will shift his
way, and he will see first hand how things while they appear to be changing really are just different flavors of the same ole thing.

How do you know what my way is?  If I'm insane why don't you respond to this http://listerengine.com/smf/index.php?topic=355.msg9334#msg9334 ?

maybe we will get his hero, hillary, if so
we better all move offgrid, and be fully independant/self sufficient.

I knocked Hilary earlier in this thread.  If Wesley Clarke runs again I'll likely vote for him, for whatever that's worth.  I'm happy to vote Republican or Democrat.

i will be just as miserable as mr procrustes

You won't debate me any more and are calling me names instead.  Is your frustration due to my genius, or is there an alternative theory?

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« Reply #68 on: July 12, 2006, 05:57:21 PM »
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Firebrick  I know how we can help the national debt, demand repayment of the loans the us made to britian from ww2 and ww1 that they have yet to repay and havent made payments in many years.  Also they can repay 120 dollars to the United States Marine Corps for a set of issued boots that the damn limey bastards stole while I was taking a shower. Tongue
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Guy Fawlks- actually, this debt was paid off finally earlier this year.
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Wrong, The world war 2 debt is actually going to be paid off in December 31st of this year, but it was only about 10 percent of the amount that the US gave the british, we forgave the rest, stupid us. 

The world war 1 debt is still unpaid and your country isnt even attempting repayment. 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4757181.stm

Ah well, when you pay the native indians a fair price for new york feel free to get back to us on that one and I'll get the queen to cut you a cheque.

oh hang on, after we all stole the american continent from the natives, you lot went and stole it from us by declaring independence.

on second thought screw the war debt, give us back our tea first.
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Re: OT - but sorta related - US national Debt
« Reply #69 on: July 13, 2006, 05:33:02 AM »
When the gen pop unifies, the over riding force is love, love which is not condusive to you becoming exceedingly wealthier than me or easily dictating  my actions.

Do you seriously believe that? Dude! You need to get out more often; humans are the not at the top of the food chain by accident, it is because we are the most vicious and greedy species currently on the planet. When the gen pop unifies... we make war!

Ah well, when you pay the native indians a fair price for new york feel free to get back to us on that one and I'll get the queen to cut you a cheque.

oh hang on, after we all stole the american continent from the natives, you lot went and stole it from us by declaring independence.

on second thought screw the war debt, give us back our tea first.

That is the funniest thing I've read in days... Do you like Lipton?

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« Reply #70 on: July 13, 2006, 04:47:08 PM »
We never signed a promisary note for the tea, or the land from the indians(they have recieved payment of sorts now with their casino's)
During the revolutionary war we were enemies, the two world wars, allies, what a great way to #$## your allies in the @##.

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« Reply #71 on: July 13, 2006, 05:51:40 PM »
mr procrustes:

"If I'm insane why don't you respond to this "

if you go back and read what i said, you would get what was said and not what you think i meant.
i made reference to this being an insane thread, not that you or anyone on this board is insane.

"You won't debate me any more and are calling me names instead."

i dont think my making an observation as to you being miserable about the current admin/war/political climate is calling you names
anymore than a hillary admin would make me miserable and by extension call myself names.

if i am going to call you names it will be direct, such as  A$$hole,

i personally don't know you so i can't call you names, what i can say from what i read of your posts on this thread is you are
passionate about your position, i can accept and respect that. i dont think it makes you crazy, or a miserable human being.
perhaps ill informed by a somewhat biased media, or coming to some faulty conclusions based on faulty data, or hell i am big enough
of a man to say that perhaps you are right.

But i dont have to agree with it.

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