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n2toh

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Fire suppression, prevention.
« on: January 29, 2006, 12:06:55 AM »
What has everyone done to address the fire hazards of their Listerloids?
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Re: Fire suppression, prevention.
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2006, 01:06:05 AM »
What fire hazard?

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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2006, 02:34:14 AM »
the fuel.
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2006, 02:39:08 AM »
the fuel.
WVO is very hard to start a fire with.  So is Diesel, which is why Tankers like diesel engines over gas.

Spill WVO and your spilling food.   but no 5 second rule ;)

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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2006, 02:42:21 AM »
Please don't mention spilling WVO >:( I delt with such a spill last year in my basement, $400 later and I'm still dealing with mold growth in the concreat.
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2006, 03:03:17 AM »
I once poured some diesel fuel into a small container, struck a match and touched it to the diesel fuel.  The match went out. 

Diesel fuel doesn't burn except under special conditions, and unlike gasoline it doesn't form an explosive vapor.  That's why it, and the heavier fuel oils are the preferred fuel for ships and why diesel was preferred for submarines before nuclear power.  So long as you store your fuel outside, and observe the usual precaustions such as not leaving oily rags hanging around and contain any spills, you shouldn't have a problem. 

Diesel won't start a fire, but if it's heated sufficiently, like in a burning rag, it will burn.  As has been mentioned, veggie oil is probably even safer than diesel. 

If you're running your engine in your basement you have a LOT of things to think about, and fire is a ways down the list.  This topic was explored some time ago.  Fire and building codes are often annoying and seem arbitrary, but if ANYTHING should happen as the result of your running an engine inside your home, your insurance will not cover you and you expose yourself to civil and criminal liability. 


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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2006, 05:45:25 AM »
I was not running anything in the house, just filtering the WVO indoors because of the cold.
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2006, 05:50:22 AM »
Sounds like a messy spill! Did you try chlorine to kill the mold?
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2006, 06:02:03 AM »
yea but it keeps coming back.
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2006, 02:47:55 PM »
Would dish washing soap be more affective at breaking down the oil...nice lemony smell to boot... I pirated a bottle of soap from the kichen sink for washing my hands and it does a nice job...even on sumpĀ  oil....
We had a 5 gal jug of peanut oil split a seam at it sat high on a shelf...I feel your pain....

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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2006, 05:34:48 PM »
I used kitty liter followed by a product called pour and restore (It does wonders on motor oil and paint) but the fine pores in the surface seem to hold just enough veg oil to make my life hell.
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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2006, 01:38:45 AM »
Back to the fire issue...I used to light deisel smudge pots for my grandad and it took a blow torch or an actual fire (built from paper and sticks inside the smudge) to get them going.  Its not exactly volatile.

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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2006, 03:38:12 AM »
Several years ago I saw the aftermath of a Tamrock Toro robotic scoop tram that lost tract of it location and fell down an ore pass at Stobie mine. It tore open its full tank in the fall, and caught fire.

HUGE FIRE BALL!!!!!

And this thing had an Ansul fire supression system....

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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2006, 12:18:21 AM »
wather or not our fuel of choice is a hazard, we still should look at the gen head and more importantly the wiring used to supply our loads.
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« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2006, 02:34:09 AM »
Good point...
And since you brought it up the Canadian electrical code requires you match hi temp wiring to match the temperature rating of electrical machines.