Author Topic: Listeroid OWNER/ OPERATORS in the Upstate NY area??  (Read 12862 times)

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Re: Listeroid OWNER/ OPERATORS in the Upstate NY area??
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2018, 08:33:03 PM »

Hello again, it's been a loooong time.
Posting a reply here to bump this once again.
Any more NYS upstate (Syracuse, Binghamton, Rochester) folks out there playing with or
working on Lister or 'roid engines/generators?

I think the site is better about notifications now, I never used to get them.

Dan
Corning/Horseheads area.

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Re: Listeroid OWNER/ OPERATORS in the Upstate NY area??
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2018, 03:08:25 PM »
I'll be relocating part time, to Milford, PA with my 6-1. The 20/2 will remain in Florida.
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Re: Listeroid OWNER/ OPERATORS in the Upstate NY area??
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2018, 04:53:18 PM »

175 miles from my location.

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Re: Listeroid OWNER/ OPERATORS in the Upstate NY area??
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2019, 10:52:37 PM »
Bump?
Just for kicks....

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Re: Listeroid OWNER/ OPERATORS in the Upstate NY area??
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2019, 03:25:28 PM »
I'm from Brockport NY area. Have had a Metro 6/1 since 2004. I use it to run a 3kw PMG.   Ron

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Re: Listeroid OWNER/ OPERATORS in the Upstate NY area??
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2019, 06:17:30 PM »
@rp48
Hello Ron
I'm nowhere your location though interested in your PMG.
I am also running a PMG with my listeroid, it is an Utterpower 3Kw unit. No problems, it just works.
Is yours also Utterpower, or did you find a different source?
Cheers
Hugh
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Re: Listeroid OWNER/ OPERATORS in the Upstate NY area??
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2019, 02:58:44 PM »
Hi Hugh,  I got my PMG from George B. / Utterpower. As I remember, it was packed very securely in a steel box. It's working OK, load it with a 3 to 4kw, doesn't overheat, no brg. noise, just a mellow hum at 3600rpm. I have it wired for 120/240 volts. I try to balance the load when using 120v.. Overall, I'm very satisfied with it. Also have a couple of ST heads... 5 & 7.5kw. They also work fine, all I did to them was to change out the chinese brgs., and put in a better high quality diode bridge.
On another note, how did the Redstone manual work out for your friend? My Redstone is still running strong. Have it belted to my 7.5kw ST
head.I'm sure it could run a 10 or 12kw head with ease. Take care, Ron

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Re: Listeroid OWNER/ OPERATORS in the Upstate NY area??
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2019, 05:56:28 PM »
Ron, I forgot that you passed on the Redstone manual to me so I could relay it on further........Thanks again for that. His 'stone is still functioning fine, it gets used only for power outages. They are relatively common here, mostly in winter with frequent windstorms, this year is an exception so far.
As for the PMG, my set-up is much the same as yours with the same results: it just works. By calculation, we should have a difficult time making 4Kw with a 6/1 as power, but I have measured the same output and with little voltage drop. They are an extremely good piece of gear. Shame they were of such limited production. Came in a steel box too. I was very fortunate to get 2 of them. The first has been in use for several years of (mostly) battery charging for our off-grid system. The other is intended to power my workshop and is belted to a Dursley 6/1 startomatic engine. I recently moved it , so is not operational ATM, another winter project....I should be out there working on it now.
Cheers
Hugh
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Lister 6/1 Start-O-Matic engine......running with PMG
1978 Royal Enfield (glutton for punishment by Indian iron)
1963 BMW R-27 project

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Re: Listeroid OWNER/ OPERATORS in the Upstate NY area??
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2019, 07:28:26 PM »
rp48, Hugh

Curious why you fellows went with the PMG units?
I do remember seeing them back when Utterpower was selling them.
One thing I am interested to know is whether they eliminate the flicker caused by our thumpers?

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Re: Listeroid OWNER/ OPERATORS in the Upstate NY area??
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2019, 09:20:53 PM »
Why PMG? They were/are high quality units made to a high spec. No diodes, no brushes, no electronics, no voltage regulator. Really simple, rugged, overengineered. Plug-and-play. So far mine have been completely reliable. At the time, they were more costly than the usual STs, but have proven to be well worth the extra cost. They were discontinues because of the increasing non-availability of consistently  high quality magnets.
Sadly, they don't eliminate the flicker.
Oh, and they are EMP proof.

Here are 4 links to some archived pages of the Utterpower site. The first 2 look same, but are 2 different pages.
https://www.utterpower.com/pmg-faq/
https://www.utterpower.com/pmg-faq/
https://www.utterpower.com/pmg_testing.htm
https://www.utterpower.com/products/pmg/

Here's a link to company in Poland that makes PMGs, I have no idea of their cost/quality/availability. Their smaller ones look very similar to the Utterpower generators
http://pmg-technology.com/

Cheers,
Hugh
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Lister 6/1 Start-O-Matic engine......running with PMG
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Re: Listeroid OWNER/ OPERATORS in the Upstate NY area??
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2019, 10:42:22 PM »
I'm from Brockport NY area. Have had a Metro 6/1 since 2004. I use it to run a 3kw PMG.   Ron

Just a month ago I visited an owner in Chili that has a 12/2 Metro nicely set up in his garage.

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Re: Listeroid OWNER/ OPERATORS in the Upstate NY area??
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2019, 10:59:49 AM »
I am from the Danbury area of Connecticut and go antiquing often in " upstate NY".

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Moderator's note: Let's not get all twisted up about a spot of geography. I've seen the distances you Americans will go to get hardware, or meet up with each other, etc. If Connecticut was the other side of NY City I could easily understand the responses this thread started getting - but frankly, it's right next to NY State, and I'm sure "deisel" meant well when he said he often goes upstate NY. And assuming "upstate" is everywhere north of the mid-line.... it's kinda in the ball park. So.... onwards, calmly. Thanks.
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Re: Listeroid OWNER/ OPERATORS in the Upstate NY area??
« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2020, 10:11:36 AM »
I am in southern Ontario Canada - 30 mins over the border from buffalo

You are welcome to come check out my setup..  I am 100% off grid on 10 acres of land



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Re: Listeroid OWNER/ OPERATORS in the Upstate NY area??
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2020, 03:45:04 PM »
I'm about 2.5 hrs south east of Buffalo. I do wish I was closer. I think we'd have good conversation.