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RiverRunner

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FS: Bamfords Z/410
« on: March 23, 2026, 09:03:35 PM »
For sale: Bamfords Z410 I've hoarded for about 15 years. Built the skid for it to run a welder which was a bad idea. I didn't understand how gearing a slow speed diesel up to a 3000 rpm welder armature would affect performance. On top of being under-powered for the job the gearing made throttle response too slow to keep my arc alive. Real reason I bought the engine was simply the love of craftsmanship and antique engineering. Just love the simplicity and sound of these old world engines. I've not found a good application for it for 15 years. Regrettably most of the things I can think of to do with it require an engine that has readily available spare parts, higher horsepower, or faster throttle response. It's been moved several times but always kept dry and under cover. Have not cranked it up since the failed welder project, and a lifestyle change has left me with less time and fewer application options than before. It's taking me years to admit that I'm not finding time to give it something to do. Registered for this forum simply because I started reading 38ac's posts and thought maybe someone here might appreciate it enough to give it another chance.

Price? Oh boy, how would I know? I'm not a collector; I just like antique machines and old world engineering. Tell me what it's worth to you. I know 38ac had some advice about pricing in another thread but not sure how to translate it to this machine and time. I'd be glad to trade for cash or maybe a Kubota or Lister diesel. The engine is located in South Carolina about 1 hour south of Columbia and 2 hours from Charleston.

I'm going to head out the shop and see if I can get some smoke and RPMs out of it. No sense in trying to sell something that won't run. When a buyer comes to pick it up we'll make sure it runs then too.

As a new member with no previous posts, I welcome feedback if I've unintentionally violated a code of conduct or forum rule. Read what I could find, but I may have missed something. Looking forward to hearing what you all think.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2026, 09:11:07 PM by RiverRunner »

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Re: FS: Bamfords Z/410
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2026, 11:32:29 PM »
Update:

Just got it to run. First try and it ran after sitting for over a decade. Bled it at the banjo bolt going into the injector pump, then cranked it with open compression for a few rounds. Started up first try! I'm so stoked. It took a bit to get the air bubbles out of the line, but smoothed out pretty soon. Now I regret having to sell it...

How do I share videos? I have 2 video of just under 3 min each that I'd like to post; one of a walk around, the other of the first startup described above.

For price, how about $2500? I always get caught between wanting to just have something gone and milking the last copper out of it... So if I stick my neck out with a price don't think you have no say so. I will say I want you to be able to come look at the machine and see it in person before you take it home. Distance sales are the reality for most of us, but also higher risk.

If interested, please respond to this thread and I'll PM you. Or vis-versa.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2026, 12:49:21 AM by RiverRunner »

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Re: FS: Bamfords Z/410
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2026, 09:04:42 PM »
I don't know anything about Bamfords, including parts availability (I assume less available than Lister and clones)... but thats a nice engine. Id love to look into this more.

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Re: FS: Bamfords Z/410
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2026, 09:18:05 PM »
Parts availability is one of the drawbacks of using a Bamfords as a working engine, from what I understand. 38ac said he has quite a few parts on hand that he accumulated from custom rebuild jobs, but unfortunately he is also wanting to retire from the shop. Other than that I have no idea where to turn for replacements.

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Re: FS: Bamfords Z/410
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2026, 09:19:27 PM »
Your price is not too far off for a slow sale and about 2X what one will bring on a quick sale in my experience which is 30 or so through the shop last 10 years 20 of which I owned, rebuilt and sold.  The market for them is a very narrow group of people. A very good engine with limited usage these days, expensive parts in limited quantities.

To the reply about parts I have them all, at least all anyone knows about and my business is currently for sale. The original parts that were in this country were quickly snapped up when Bamfords ceased and when they were worn out a lot of engine were left sitting. When I got interested in them I have to have parts made, either in my machine shop or purchased on quantitys that allowed for prices somebody might pay. I have shipped them all over the world. That's the parts situation, when mine are gone that's it unless somebody else runs with the ball.
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Re: FS: Bamfords Z/410
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2026, 09:27:24 AM »

How do I share videos? I have 2 video of just under 3 min each that I'd like to post; one of a walk around, the other of the first startup described above.


The simplest way to share videos is to upload them to YouTube, then post the links in a message here. If you don't want to make them "general release" (i.e. anyone on YT can find them), mark them as "unlisted" - people you share the link with can still see them.

Cheers!
Ade.
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