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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Resurrection of a Lister 12/2
« Last post by Willw on November 21, 2019, 11:24:48 PM »
Congratulations on getting her running. Good job.
Original Lister Cs Engines / Lister 12/2 ALIVE - 21NOV2019
« Last post by sirpedrosa on November 21, 2019, 07:16:32 PM »
Hi my Friends

First of all I'd like to thanks to all of you, whom helped me to reach this mile stone.


4 pics and the link to 2 vids starting cyl 1 and cyl 2.

Cylinder 1 starting:
Cylinder 2 starting:

Couldn't start both cylinder at same time, because I realised it was to much kinetic energy to that casters in order to run steady.

Next step: making trolley and cooling tank.

Hi Gentels

All baskets are empty, just left the old hose clamps.

It's ready to fire up...


1- basket;
2 - Do you remember my Braims oil can?
3 - And our friend syringe? Bleed is bleed, isn't it?
Petteroids / PETTER - PAZ1 - 2 Petter PAZ1 video
« Last post by sirpedrosa on November 21, 2019, 01:01:03 AM »
Hi Gentels

Maintance of my both PAZ1's.

One kart do finish, and the gen head to another. Look here:

Original Lister Cs Engines / Resurrection of a Lister 12/2 - Almost done
« Last post by sirpedrosa on November 20, 2019, 09:48:24 PM »
Hi Gentles

The beast is dressed. Only need to be bleded and oil pump primed.

2 pics to amuse...


1 - Hot water manifold detail.
2 - general view.
Everything else / Re: Centrifuges Really Work
« Last post by glort on November 20, 2019, 09:06:45 PM »

Seems people in some places have always had trouble getting oil and for others it's plentiful.  Nothing new at all. In the veg heyday people were always complaining they couldn't get it but some of the approaches they used were pretty self explanatory why. The other thing is supply and these collection companies seem to come and go.  Universally and world wide, they are always a bunch of immoral cowboys that make up their own rules and do what suits them.

Here some years back when they were after it for bio they went round threatening a lot of people using false EPA rules to get them to come on board and others they offered to pay.  NO one ever got paid a cent and they didn't even collect for long before the price went down and they didn't bother collecting any more. This wasn't a small new company, this was some major waste companies still going today.

Oil was hard to get here but it took literally months for these twerps to burn a LOT of restaurateurs whom were then begging for someone to take the stuff away.  It is no exaggeration to say I would go to some place to pick up and have two more owners coming out and asking if I would take their oil too. I doubled my collection setup from 2 to 400L and used to go out with a mate in his ute and collect 1000L in 2 Hours or less.  One place had rows of drums and we used to pull up there and collect 1000L a week. That was a small shopping centre that had more restaurants than anything else. Geez they went through some oil in that place.  That was the year I picked up 14,000L for my mate to make Bio with and for me to use as oil. I had 5000l+ in stock in the yard and a small shed full of oil.  People that travelled on oil were always dropping in for a top up and I was like the WVO fuel station.

One of my best supplies was my brother in law whom worked for a waste company. They got a contract to take the used cooking oil off the cruise ships when they came in along with the rest of their rubbish.  Each ship would have 2-4 IBC's full of Oil and it was bloody good, clean oil. Best I ever got!
I'd go to his work with my trailer, he'd fork in a IBC and I was on my way.  Sometimes i'd go home, pump it into my tanks and go back and get another.
I could also drop one off to a mate, collect the empty and take that back and pick up a full one. There was always at least one waiting for me.
No running round to various places pumping it, just loaded in an they must have cooked something ones and then changed the oil. It was like new and had very little moisture or particles so was a cinch to process. I sure miss that stuff!

Oil is still plentiful here. Generally it's put in open top 200L drums and I have a pump I made years ago I suck it out with into another 200L drum.
Some companies have various styles of tanks but they are no problem.
I doubt whether these new companies will survive. Seems to me that they come along, they make supply much more available which drives the price down and then they go out of business. Oil is used for a number of things, industrial lubricant, animal food or additive, used in some paints, sealants and rust preventative products and so on.  I know of a couple of companies that use it for firing burners or Boilers for making cement and industrial heating. A large Potato chip company here burn their oil oil to cook the chips and rotate it that way.

The key as it has always been is to make alliances with the restaurants to get supplies.  To them it is a waste product which is a liability and they want gone.  If the stuff is there I collect it. Of course the do gooder purists have always had a sook about that.  If came and took stuff out of their trash, particularly if it was over full or from their street cleanup, would they whine about that? Well, some probably would because the are never happy but as my restaurateur friend laughed, It's waste, we just want it gone, same as we want the rest of the rubbish gone and don't care who takes it as long as it disappears.

In the end I think oil supply is largely what one makes it.  You can have plenty or none depending how much you really want it.

Everything else / Re: Centrifuges Really Work
« Last post by veggie on November 20, 2019, 07:50:45 PM »
Yes. The price is steep for the centrifuge setup. I have a few buddies who bought them.
In my case I just bought the machined/balanced bowl and built the rest from scrounged metal.

I wonder how much longer WVO will be avialable in my area. 2 new companies have opened which set up free waste removal for restaurants. There we already several in operation. They process the VO on a large scale. Cleaning it for some use. I don't think it's for biodiesel because it's not economically feasible here. One by one restaurants are accepting their collection bin for waste oil dumping. Small VO collectors are running out of supply.
These companies even pick up from private users. One of my friends had too much to process. He called them and they drove over with a vacuum truck and sucked WVO from two 1000 ltr IBC totes that he had.

Since the drop in Biodiesel interest there has not been much competition to get WVO. But with these new commercial processors, the remaining few home brewers are having trouble getting feedstock.

General Discussion / Re: Looking for a hand in UK
« Last post by broncodriver99 on November 20, 2019, 01:00:51 PM »
Thank you for the offers. Johndoh is helping me out.
General Discussion / Re: Looking for a hand in UK
« Last post by AdeV on November 19, 2019, 10:57:14 PM »
Also happy to help - if necessary. However, I'm in China next week, for a week, so John might be able to work something out more quickly.
Everything else / Re: Centrifuges Really Work
« Last post by glort on November 19, 2019, 08:56:06 PM »

I suppose if you consider $0.0053 per liter expensive then you would be correct.
($1.60 per 300 liters)

No, I don't consider the power cost expensive even though it would be  3 times greater here, just very energy intensive and wasteful.  Spose it matters less now with people having solar but it was a big thing back in the heyday of veg.
What I was meaning with expensive is the initial purchase setup cost.  I see to buy a bowl type fuge is over $1600US atm. even the questionable little jet types arent cheap either...Not that they ever were and were made just down the road form me years ago.

As long as it works, it really does not matter what system a person uses.

Yep, pretty much what I said.
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