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Listeroid Engines / Re: gasket for the 6/1 - which side up? - FWIW
« Last post by sirpedrosa on Today at 10:54:29 PM »
Gentles

FWIW - cylinder head gaskets of original CS Lister (single or twin [2xsingle]) ONLY can go one way - because there are no symmetrical faces, unless you open new guide holes

Cheers
VP
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Listeroid Engines / Re: gasket for the 6/1 - which side up?
« Last post by AdeV on Today at 09:13:14 PM »
Hi Tyss

Original ONLY can go one way.

And the side of the ridge stay faced down.


THIS is what I wanted to know.   The completely smooth side goes up, the side with the slight ridge goes down.

I really don't think it matters, certainly not in these engines.

The ridge is there to provide an extra good seal between the cylinder barrel and the head, as it has to contain the combustion gases (it's called the fire ring). The rest of the gasket only has to hold back water. It's been a while since I looked at a Lister CS head, but IIRC it's basically completely flat, with holes for the combustion chamber and valves. So it'll squidge down extra hard around the ring whichever way up the ring is. It goes without saying, I hope, that both the top of the barrel and the face of the head must be absolutely spotlessly clean and smooth and flat to within a couple of thou (0.002"), otherwise you'll not make a good seal. There's no good reason not to use a little gasket sealant around the waterways, just make sure you go the right side of the bolts...

Interesting thread here: https://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?p=76638

Apparently the fire ring can, in fact, indent the head (although that being a Ford forum, I don't know if they're talking about aluminium or cast iron), their recommendation is fire ring up, because it's easier to resurface the head if it gets dented. Probably also true of a Lister; but also, probably not a problem for a 6hp lazy diesel.

Of course, if one had a 12/2, one could do the experiment by installing the gaskets opposite ways up on each cylinder, and trying it out. Should anyone wish to ship me a 12/2, I will sacrifice the time to do the experiment, in the interests of science, obviously :)


Cheers,
Ade.
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Lister Based Generators / Re: Automatic Remote Control Generating Sets
« Last post by AdeV on Today at 08:54:55 PM »
Aaah, ok, that makes perfect sense now, thanks for the pics! One thing.... it'd be much appreciated if you could re-size them a little smaller before uploading them please? The forum software isn't that great at showing pictures, so unless you're on a 4K screen (I'm not...) it gets a bit iffy viewing them.

Pro tip: Right-click the thumbnail & select "Open content in new tab/window" or similar, then let your browser handle the zooming in/out...

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Lister Based Generators / Re: Automatic Remote Control Generating Sets
« Last post by sinna42 on Today at 03:35:54 PM »
Hi Ade,

Attached are photos that show the linkages to the fuel pumps.
First is a top view which isn't particularily clear & the 2nd & 3rd ones show the non governor & governor sides.
On the governor side the bolt with the "pad" engages with the engine speed detection microswitch.

I can confirm that this set is exactly as supplied as the electrical circuit diagram matches exactly with the physical components & is date stamped 1952, the year of supply.

I will post photos of the special compression COVs used on this 12/2 engine along with a standard 6/1 one for comparison.

Cheers,
Jim
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Listeroid Engines / Re: gasket for the 6/1 - which side up?
« Last post by sirpedrosa on Today at 08:20:14 AM »
Gentles

"The worst blind is the one who doesn't want to see", says a popular saying.

If the help didn't help, I gave the best help I have.

If it wasn't the best, I don't have another one. A different one, I just have a little prayer to ask wisdom to the lord.

Stay safe
VP

PS: By the way Bob (aka Ajaffa1) gave an interview asking for bricks and cement to help rebuilding his home, and others too. Maybe he got better opinion about that gasket.
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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Water or steam injection
« Last post by saba on February 23, 2020, 08:55:26 PM »
just got a few with external antenna so i can build it in an enclosure.

regards bernhard
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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Water or steam injection
« Last post by veggie on February 23, 2020, 04:17:00 PM »
WiFi range.
I have seen a few tests on youtube where users reached 350 ft (clean line of sight) using the Wemos /Arduino module.
It uses the ESP8266 wifi chip and does have an onboard antennae.
I use mine at 75 ft without issues. In one application I added a wifi extender (booster) to my system approx 100ft from the main router.
That enhanced the coverage considerably.
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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Water or steam injection
« Last post by veggie on February 23, 2020, 03:53:01 PM »
The big difference with the Wemos is that it's pins are all 3.3vdc (like the raspberry Pi) unlike the Arduino which is 5vdc.

Do you see some advantage in that?

I think there are a few boards that have the built in Wifi now.


Nope, No advantage to 3.3 volts. Just pointing out the differences in the boards.
Some people make the mistake of assuming the Wemos is the same as an Arduino in all respects and fry the board by using 5vdv sensors and inputs instead of 3.3v.
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Listeroid Engines / Re: gasket for the 6/1 - which side up?
« Last post by glort on February 23, 2020, 06:33:08 AM »
Well, if you’re really asking - I see 1 picture of a copper gasket- that looks like it goes to.

I'm buggered if I can see anything there that would answer your question either so don't feel like it's just you!   ::)
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Listeroid Engines / Re: gasket for the 6/1 - which side up?
« Last post by sirpedrosa on February 22, 2020, 11:32:19 PM »
Tyss

I give up, really...
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