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Listeroid Engines / Re: New guy!
« on: February 15, 2009, 04:58:11 PM »
Jens, I am not "down on the twins" I just feel, like QJET, that a good used commercial diesel would fill the bill better for a continous large load and be cheaper and easier in the long run.  Maybe not as cool but easier none the less.

QJET, I totally agree that the 6-1 is the coolest and it is quieter than say a 12-1, but the SFC for the 6-1 and 12-1 is the same.  So doing the same amount of work (read loaded) they should burnthe same amount of fuel for the same amount of work being performed.  I know that at a really small load the 6-1 would beat it in economy.  What I am trying to do (again trying is the operative word) is to have something that COULD just about run everything if I run it hard, and still have something that will still loaf along and not use too much fuel.  As far as making it "portable" goes if i wanted portable I would go buy a little gas unit.  Rocketboys portable set-up is way cool for balancing props at the field, but I have more power than you can shake a stick at in my hangar.  By the way, maybe you could fly up and balance my listeroid and my plane some day with your ACES box?

Mike

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Listeroid Engines / Re: New guy!
« on: February 15, 2009, 12:49:12 PM »
Thanks for the replies, all of you are probably right, I may be expecting a little too much.  As a pilot and aircraft owner I am well familiar with density altitude and dont think it will affect me here too much (density alt here in the hottest part of the summer is a little over 2000 Ft.) I see what jens was talking about in respect to reserve, I was thinking about surge load.  I cannot aford a twin, nor do I think I really want one..... so I guess I will just have to compensate. Part of getting the wife on board is the ability to run the A/C after an outage...but  :P

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Listeroid Engines / Re: New guy!
« on: February 14, 2009, 09:11:48 PM »
Jens, I have read several places that the 12-1 will pull 6.5-7 Kw continously.  Is this not the case? And what do you mean by "no reserve" I thought that a roid would take a large surge load such as starting an A/C unit with relative ease. A 16-1 would be good but from what I have read and seen pictures of the 16-1 metro I have not been impressed with the quality, but this is not a first hand observation.  Does anyone else make a 16-1?

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Slobbering=not enough temp or not enough load?
« on: February 14, 2009, 09:06:21 PM »
Thanks for the info ronmar.  My problem is that I want to stay with a single cylinder but I want to be able to run the A/C.  If I go with the 12-1 I could make 6 to 7 Kw continously which I think (operative word is think) will start my A/C unit.  When the A/C is not running my load will likely be about 2500 watts (I think) if I load shed my electric water heater.  So yes I agree that smaller is better but a 6-1 wont do it and most of the time the 12-1 will not be loaded very heavily. 

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Listeroid Engines / Re: New guy!
« on: February 14, 2009, 05:33:14 PM »
My name is Mike and I live in the Savannah Ga area.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Slobbering=not enough temp or not enough load?
« on: February 14, 2009, 05:30:55 PM »
Stan, I dont have an engine yet so I do not know ahat type of oil I will run.  Good point about load during break in.  Just trying to understand if I would have a slobbering problem if i were to run it with a light load.

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Listeroid Engines / Slobbering=not enough temp or not enough load?
« on: February 14, 2009, 02:32:49 PM »
I have been reading everything I can about exhaust slobbering and I still cant come to a definate conclusion.  Most people say you will get slobbering if you are not running enough load, the same people rarely mention operating temp.  My thought is that if the operating temp is correct the even if you are only lightly loaded you will have complete combustion and slobbering should not happen.  I also realize that under a high load the cylinder pressure will be much higher and the rings will seat better, but ring seating should have nothing to with slobbering and everything to do with oil consumption and blow-by.  Alot of stuff that I have read has base ring seating and engine load as thier reasoning for the exhaust slobber. So if I were to run a theromostat and get the engine temp right but run a small load do you thing I will get the dreaded slobber? 

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Listeroid Engines / New guy!
« on: February 14, 2009, 02:22:33 PM »
Hello all, I have been researching listeroids for about a year and a half and I think I am about to pull the trigger.  My plan is to get a 12-1 and set it up in my attached garage for standby use. In a few years when I build my new house I will build the beast it's own building as I have plenty of land to do it on there, but for now I am living in the burbs. The reason that I am looking at a 12-1 is that I want to be able to run the whole house and the A/C (5 ton that draws around 19 amps when its running).  I think I can do it with 6.5 to 7Kw if I load shed the water heater. Does this sound reasonable or is this being too optimistic?  I am an aircraft mechanic among other things and I think I have the mechanical ability to do a tear down on a new listeroid and get it right before I put it in service, so that will be the plan. I have many questions and am thrilled to have a place to talk to people who have been there and done it already, and look forward to learning from all of you!

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