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Petteroids / Re: Arrow k6
« on: August 08, 2018, 06:32:15 PM »
Yah I was going to park the roid for now and this engine docent has an injector so wvo  is out of the question. I just got off the phone with big All. He used to sell these arrow petters and I'm getting a head gasket and rings, Anand won't answers my emails. If anyone is interested these are 10 hp Indian petters  that have been modified to north American oil field standard. Big All said he knows where there are more it's too far from me to take advantage of but u guys in the US can.

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Petteroids / Re: Arrow k6
« on: August 08, 2018, 02:47:21 PM »
I'm getting older and starting to think that if something happens to me my wife would be hit with a double Wammie. I don't even have to die I could fall on the ice and bust my head and never be able to perform the magic I performed around hear. And I know Mrs X wouldn't be able to turn the starting Handel on my 6/1. That leaves the Honda, very expensive power, especially in the northern winter runing up to 6 hr per day on gasoline. The power company wants 16,000 for 1 pole and transformer. And they don't finance, the ng will finance. Ng will supply both heat and produce power cheaply. I figured it out at -30 I burn 4 gal in my house heater, 4 gal in kennel heat, and 4 gal in the roid. That is 16 gal, if it was diesel instead of the free crap I burn it would cost 50 bucks / day. Converting to gigajoul it would be 9 bucks, big saving. Lotsa  people say oh u won't die, but shit happens and sooner or later it will happen. My operation is not just a turn the lights off and leave situation, thus the concern for our future.

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Petteroids / Re: Arrow k6
« on: August 07, 2018, 03:26:04 PM »
http://s106.photobucket.com/user/MRx_04/library/. Ok there pics this is going to be run on natural gas, it ran on well gas before so it's almost ready to go. I put up with running a listeroid on used veg for years. 11000 hr. I'm tired of fixing, every 150 to 1500 hr it needs to be disasembeled an decarboned and fix what ever stoped it from running. I'm getting older and don't have the ambition. It is my main source of power that and a back up Honda.
   I knew when I saw this petter it was Indian and who ever converted this did a good job, it has pressure rocker arm oil. I'm pretty sure it has pressure oiling of the con rod barring.has a nice spin on oil filter. Electric start and charging, has an oil sight glass, temp gauge, electric clutch. Shit I bet the electric clutch is worth more then I paid for the motor, which was 100.00 bucks. I have the engine rebuild shop looking around for more of these but they were never too popular in northern Alberta.  These motors were suggested to run at 400 to 800 rpm I know there good to 1500 rpm not sure where I'll run her, maybe 1000 or less. But now I have to weight for parts.

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Petteroids / Re: Arrow k6
« on: August 05, 2018, 06:28:46 PM »
Well An ad came through with some parts. I got a gasket set most fit but for the head gaskets and block shims. And I'm sure a few others. I got governor parts that fit. I got head gaskets but not fit, the blow hole is right but the bolt holes and a few water passages wont. Got new intake and exhaust manifold. And got new crank herrings not sure if they fit.

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Petteroids / Re: Arrow k6
« on: April 30, 2018, 03:47:44 PM »
Voila. I found part, pretty reasonable. I need a new side cover the one I have has no bump out to accommodate injector pump. I need injector pump linkage, new governor drive, injector line, injector, hold Down for onjector and bolts. New intake and exhaust manifold. Con rod herrings and head gaskets, and other gaskets. 380.00 us. That's not too bad so I get a used  10 hp petter clone for the price of a case of beer and bottle of whisky, plus parts. Where can I find more. I can only hope that it works and I don't forget any parts cause I don't want to order and pay for more later. If you guys out there find these engines don't turn ur back on them they are a solid little engine, the crank is balanced and they look ,like a nice rig. X

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Petteroids / Re: Arrow k6
« on: April 15, 2018, 02:38:38 PM »
No it is Indian made product, I've been searching the suppliers and there are parts available to convert this back to the diesel it came from ,just a matter of a few parts. The only question is can I afford the parts plus freight, I guess I'll know soon.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Maintenance when burning wvo
« on: April 14, 2018, 11:32:20 PM »
I weren't trying to get into a discussion about wvo  processing , I was nearly trying to bring attention that if you do burn wvo  then  there are areas that I was neglecting for a long time not realizing they need attention. My own processing begins with storing the cubes in my oil shed, I then wait for the heat of late spring and summer,  I have a large air compressor tank with one pointy end cut off, I then made a frame and this now stands up. I put a plywood shelf around this and I put 3, 4 cubes on there minus the box. I then drill a hole just above the line of gunk u can see in the cube. I then walk away for a day. The oil has it's first screening and settling. It then pours through another 45 gal barrel settling tank. When the system is full I fill up 45 gallon barrels. The ones I need to mix 50% veg and dino I only fill up to half. In the winter I have to bring my barrels in to the shop to thaw out for a week.  My lister has a day tank where it settles more, I then have a fuel filter with a stick on 50 watt heater this heats the oil and is the last chance to drop the water out. It goes to the last heater a line heater on the injector line. That's it I haven't had much trouble. I start on dino and stop on dino.  X

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Petteroids / Re: Arrow k6
« on: April 10, 2018, 02:50:31 PM »
Iv all ready been allover that smokestack fourm, there isn't much info about these lil arrows but they look sooooo much like an Indian product. There are 2 holes in the head beside the spark plug/injector hole. I'll bet the piston has been machined to reduce the compression ratio. The side cover oposit the injector side has been changed to a flat plate so there is no hole for the ip pump the spot where the fuel filter was is now converted to oil filter. And they went better by putting oil lines to the head to lubricate the valves.
I got the plug out yesterday and over the last few days the ice has melted and I can now turn the motor over, haven't really got into too much diagnosis on it cause my shop is friggin cold. Today seems a bit better so I may look at it closer. Ask the question when did petter amalgamated with lister, 60 s 70s the date on mine is 2007 where did these come from my guess is india. I'm emailing Indian suppliers to get the parts I need to convert this, well see.

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Listeroid Engines / Maintenance when burning wvo
« on: April 07, 2018, 12:13:28 AM »
I'm now finding eleven though I try and follow a service schedule but I'm finding that burning this dirty crap my service ain't good enough. Was having injector problems, didn't seem to be getting fuel very hard to start. After messing wit timing still hard to start. So I started taking the old injector pump apart. This pump I took off a few yrs ago and just now am I looking at it. It is filthy, this is one part that should be serviced at least once year. I just discovered you can pull apart injector tips and clean. This should be done about every oil change. Also I just discovered you can take the top con rod Bering out through the side cover ,it's a pain but can be done. I think after I turned a Bering I'll keep a close eye on that, maybe every 2 to 3 oil change. I'm going to have to make a check list just to keep track of this stuff. I have 12000 hr on it now still running good. I'm getting natural gas this year so I'm going to run it on duel fuel, wvo and ng. I just bought cheep a arrow k6 engine. I'm thinking I'd like to turn back into diesel if I can find parts that fit, well see.

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Petteroids / Re: Arrow k6
« on: April 06, 2018, 11:57:45 PM »
I can find no markings of Indian Ness on it but u can see where parts were when it was a diesel. There are 2 bolt holes beside the plug hole, which used to be an injector hole. The side cover has been changed cause there is no signed of a hole foe ip pump. I read on a smokestack form that it could be a loveson sk,  ska,  or sh model.any ideas?

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Petteroids / Arrow k6
« on: April 06, 2018, 11:50:03 PM »
I'm now the proud owner of a 07 k6 arrow engine. Got home and she's a hefty lil bugger. Good thing I still had a friends engine hoist. Any way I bought it cheep the price of a bottle and a case of beer. Which is a good thing cause right now it seems to be frozen. Eat her truly frozen or rusted. I gave it a squirt of w d 40 in the valves couldn't get the plug out. So I'll have to heat it up and check it out more. I sure am curious as to if these are Indian made. Cause I'm like to convert back to diesel . Looking at it I'd need a new side cover that contains the opening for the i p pump, then I'd need the cam follower. Then I'd need the fuel line and injector. I have no idea as to why the retired this and what is wrong, or maybe I'm the proud owner of a boat anchor. I just need a boat.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Oh oh I turned a berring
« on: August 05, 2017, 02:31:19 PM »
I talked to the engine rebuild place and they figure 150.00 I guess not too bad, so soon I'll start tearing her down.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Oh oh I turned a berring
« on: August 04, 2017, 07:32:25 PM »
I have 10-25-20 over size  bearings now but as to get more not sure. You figure only a hundred to get her Ground?  I'll have to check, I have all this free fuel to burn I'd hate to waste it. But man what a bunch of work to fix it. I'm getting tired of fixing, but as they say ain't no free lunch, I can either buy gas or fix it and run for free. Humm!  Either way my roid has  to come out of the closet it's in so I may start there and see if I can build some enthusiasm  for the project, thanks for the ideas.

X

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Listeroid Engines / Oh oh I turned a berring
« on: August 04, 2017, 05:31:48 PM »
Last week I heard a noise I thought was a bearing in my gen head. I took it to a rebuild guy and he said it the bearing was turning in the housing end but managed to fix it for 375.00 . OK I hook it up and fire up my roid and an hour later it quits .so restarting it I notice there is some strange thump and bump and an ugly growel. Now what, I take off the sump inspection plate and lay down and slowly turn the flywheel. I notice the joint of the Conrod cank bearing is following the crank around. Shit! I've spun a bearing,  and I see my sump magnets are full of metal grinding.  I see the cotter pin on the far side king nut is missing, also the spacer on the front side of the bearing she'll is missing. The end of the oil finger is ground down. I see the crank is badly scared and any babet is long gone and now metal on metal. Damn I've only got 10500 hr on it it can't be over. I don't have much money and all the proper fixes involve money. I'm going to try an Indian fix, what ever that is. But I'll try and smooth the crank with emmerory cloth. Not sure how maybe spin the crank with 1/2 in drill and try and follow with a long strip of emmerory.  Maybe I can clean it enough that it will work. So what if I have to check bearing every oil change, it may work I'm sure crude fixes have been done on these old engines, any body got any suggestions that won't cost much. I know a new crank is about 250.00 and probably near as much for shipping. Machine shop would charge about the same.

MR X

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Newbie, looking to determine engine value
« on: March 12, 2016, 03:25:44 PM »
I couldn't imagine having a modern engin yes it's a pain to have to work on the Roid so often. This time round I got 1800 her before needing decarboning about 6 months or 6 45 gal barrel of veg oil. I'm sure no other engin would be able to burn wvo so efficiently as a Roid. And with out wvo I wouldn't be able to afford to use it as my main source of power in our long Canadian winter. Since sept I have burned 350 gal in the Roid , and have figured how to heat my dog kennel and house with wvo adding another 200 gal to the mix. With that said I'm thinking of hooking up to the grid I'm approaching the age where this stuff is getting harder to do every year and if anything happened to me my wife would lost as to power production.

X

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