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Listeroid Engines / Re: problem with fieldmarshall
« on: May 16, 2010, 11:28:12 PM »
Hey Mike, I second what potter and billswan said!  Correct diagnosis is a talent that comes in very handy for engines, and other things too  :P !  For me it works well to go slow and observe (see,feel listen) what is going on as you rotate the engine.  Do the valves go up and down, injector creak, air go in and out the correct ports at the right times, etc.  I check everything I can and usually have a theory of what's wrong before I start taking something apart.  At least these engines are so simple that it is a sure bet you can get them running again no matter what went wrong!  Good luck!       Leland

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General Discussion / Re: sorry for the down time.
« on: May 06, 2010, 12:39:11 AM »
I got a message telling me this was a banned site  :'( !  Glad my IP decided to let me look now !                                        Leland

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: New owner CS12/2 incl. Boat
« on: April 26, 2010, 11:28:17 AM »
 ;D  ;D LOL, Oh that explains a lot!  I thought somebody besides me must be on drugs  ;) !  Also my eyes haven't been the same since that thing with the aliens!  I have probably been missing the spelling for a long time  :P, sorry about that guys!                             Leland

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: New owner CS12/2 incl. Boat
« on: April 25, 2010, 10:51:09 PM »
I'm confused as to who is asking what question here  ??? ?  It seems obvious that the governer cover needs to come off to see why the governer arm is stuck!  This is Tijean's engine and Tijean worked on it and put the governor together?  But Tijean doesn't know what the governor parts look like?  I feel like some posts are missing here???  If it was my engine I would take the cover off and look inside before I turned the crankshaft!  Just the way I do things  ;) !                         Leland

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General Discussion / Re: Lister CS 18/2 . . . serious help needed
« on: April 15, 2010, 10:43:06 AM »
To me it goes without saying that you would turn it over by hand a few times to make sure it is not filled with water  ;) !  If it won't turn past TDC I'd pull the injectors and oil the cylinders down and go from there.  I had an old Suzuki 2 stroke 250 enduro bike that couldn't swim as well as I sometimes needed it to, I'd added a compression relese to the head and the engineers who designed the motor had apparently anticapited these situations because there was a handy plug in the bottom end that would let the water out  ;D !  The transmission never filled with water, I guess the elaborate path for the breather vent worked!  I could have the bike running in about 15 minutes after fishing it out  ::) .  I've only seen a crankcase drain like that on a few bikes, it sure beats having to turn the bike on end and shake  :P !  Good luck with the boat!                                                                                              Leland

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General Discussion / Re: Lister CS 18/2 . . . serious help needed
« on: April 14, 2010, 09:34:34 AM »
Welcome aboard Capt'n Barney!  We could go cruising a lot sooner if you'd take Caseys advice!  I myself would try and get it going without a teardown if it was my engine, diesels have sat for years submerged in sea water and started up after a drain and flush  ;) !  I have worked siezed engines loose and got them running and they seemed none the worse for the trauma suffered  :) !  Good luck and smooth sailing!                        Leland

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Generators / Re: Hz issue and what will 4000watts run?
« on: April 08, 2010, 10:52:00 AM »
Great find Dave, I like Kubota's little details!  I bet that the Changfoids are a copy of these.  Good luck with it, I think you'll gwet the generator sorted!                      Leland

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Generators / Re: Hz issue and what will 4000watts run?
« on: April 04, 2010, 11:36:03 PM »
Since the frequency of the output is a function of the number of poles and the RPM of the generator shaft both legs have to be the same  :P !  There must be something screwing with the way the Killowatt reads the Hz?  Maybe the sine wave is distorted on that leg for some reason.  I would get an induction motor or two, a 120V and a 220V and try them, hopefully with a way to check their running RPM; plug them in and see how they act, if the Hz is really off that much you should notice the motors acting strange  ??? .  What is that black thing in the middle of the oil fill plug, a level indicator?  Also what is the valve and hose hooked into the intake for, starting fluid?  Looks like a well made engine, is it noisy?  I need the quietest diesel I can get and so far a 6/1 Listeroid is the least noisy diesel engine I have heard so far.  Also I would be curious to know what brand and where the generator was made, and to see how it is excited and if it has brushes or not.  And you might consider just using a battery charger run off the AC if the generator turns out to be OK?  However it has been my experience that battery chargers don't always work quite right when run from generators, I'm not sure why.  I think smallish generators have a little trouble running inductive loads because the inductance of the generator interacts with the load in ways that don't work out so well.  Just my $.02 and worth at least half that  ;) !  Good luck with your toy Dave!                                                     Leland

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Generators / Re: Hz issue and what will 4000watts run?
« on: April 04, 2010, 09:31:53 PM »
Woa... are you saying that one 120V leg is running at 60Hz and the other 120V leg is running at 40-45Hz both at the same time  ??? ?  That should be impossible  :o !  What kind of frequency meter are you using and how are you connecting it?  If you connect the frequency meter across the 220V terminals what does it read both loaded and unloaded?  If I understand what you are saying there is a real mystery here!  Cool motor in any case, what horsepower and bore & stroke is it?  Could you post a few moere photos?                                     Leland

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Generators / Re: Metro 4Kva gen head 6/1 Metro
« on: March 08, 2010, 01:13:30 AM »
I had a 7.5KW Metro genset from Sam that had a 12HP Petteroid direct driving a Indian genhead.  I think all the Indian made genheads are series wound generators; all the load current flows through both the stator and rotor!  The diode groups form a full wave rectifier to keep DC flowing through the rotor so that it has constant North and South poles; also the more current you try to pull through the generator the higher the output voltage goes, within some design limits  ;) of course.  These generator heads are center tapped so you can have both 120 and 240, but I think you only get 1/2 the rated output at 120V  >:( !  They can't be rewired to get full output at 120V like a ST genhead as far as I know.  Of course I don't know anything for certain since I haven't seen your unit in person.  The genset I had worked very well, I could load it up very heavy and the output voltage just kept rising and it would start my compressor or swamp cooler even when overloaded but the Petteroid was blowing black smoke and the frequency dropped way down past where the Kill-o-Watt would give a reading.  The weak spot in these style genheads is the diodes, that's why they give you extras with the generator (you did get extras with yours, right?); I was always afraid of blowing a diode when overloading my generator for a test so I only did it a few times for short periods.  The diodes stayed cool to the touch as far as I could tell and they were in the airflow of the cooling fan.  Still I wonder what would happen if a diode was to fail and be a short?  Maybe this type diode never does fail into a short and just pops open?  I didn't want to find out so when a guy needed a generator in a hurry I sold the unit to him; the direct injection Petteroid was way too noisy for me to use in my neighborhood.  The Listeroid 6/1 is the least noisy diesel that I have ever heard so far  :) !  Leland

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Generators / Re: Metro 4Kva gen head 6/1 Metro
« on: March 06, 2010, 09:59:57 AM »
Hi behoof, welcome to the group!  What exactly is the compressor you need to run?  Voltage, horsepower, RPM, CFM, # of cylinders ETC. ?  Can it be wired for 220?  I think you might need to wire it for 220V and add more volume between the exhaust valves and the check valve so that the motor can get up to speed before it has to pump against tank pressure!  If your gen head was made in India it is a completely different design than ST heads from China  :o !!  It is probably a series wound head and they are usually very good at starting motors.  It might be that it is just not possible to run your compresser.  Small generators have a hard time starting motors for many reasons  :P.  Good luck with the govenor changes, Listeroids all need a lot of help with their speed control, you usually have to live with some speed drop.  Someday I'd like to try making some heavier flyweights for mine to see if I can make it hold HZ better.                 Leland

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Listeroid Engines / Re: METRO OWNERS
« on: February 23, 2010, 11:36:39 AM »
My thoughts are that the problem is the tempreture is too low and the cranking speed is too slow!  I would try a fully charged battery right at the engine hooked up with short, thick battery cables (did the unit come with good ones?) so the engine spins as fast as possible coming up on the compression stroke.  I would expect it to start then if all the other factors are the same, it seems like you were just almost right there  :P !  I have a ChangFa R175A that will start at 70 degrees but at 50 degrees acts just like your Metro.  Once your Metro gets broken in it should start easier.                                   Leland

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Cooling with radiator gone wrong
« on: October 24, 2009, 10:31:18 PM »
I'd bet you have air trapped in the top of the radiator!  Maybe all you have to do is lower the radiator a few inches and tilt the top forward so air can purge out the temp sensor hole as it is filled.  Problem solved!  It would seem more normal to flip the radiator over so that overflow is at the top but since the hose fitting is cast at that angle I'm not sure I'd bother with that  :-\.            Leland

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Cooling with radiator gone wrong
« on: October 08, 2009, 06:56:03 AM »
Hi jedon; I have to agree with NoSpark about bleeding air out of the radiator.  It would be much better if you turn the radiator over so the small clear tube is on top so it can be an overflow and air bleed.  I'd guess you had an air lock that caused the steam problem!  I hope the top hose fitting that looks like it is part of the top tank is not angled like it looks to be?  That would add a little complication to turning the radiator upside down, but you could tilt the radiator to help compensate for the angle.                                                Leland

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General Discussion / Re: Cool tuning tool for SI engines
« on: September 26, 2009, 09:38:06 PM »
I've had a couple of these for years and they are handy for dialing in the fuel mixture.  However the ones I have can't be used with the engine under load, like on a dyno or driving down the road, or they will blow apart  :-[ !  My dad told me once that the hot accessory for cool cars way back when(like model T hot rods with no hoods) were sparkplugs made with glass bodys instead of porcelain so it looked cool when driving at night  ;D !  He couldn't recall any drawback to those plugs but remembers that it seemed a short lived fad.                          Leland

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