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General Discussion / Listeroids and India ship breaking
« on: April 23, 2006, 11:54:22 PM »
I was thinking the other day (dangerous, I know), about the reported proximity of the various factories that make Listeroids and the Indian ship breaking that occurs on the west coast of India.  Seems likely that a lot of that scrap from the ships is turned into Listeroids and sent around the world.

I don't have any particular comment about it, other than it seems likely that old ships are being turned into Listeroids.  Interesting if nothing else.  I've been told that the ships are cranked up to full speed, and run up on the beach.  The Indians then cut them apart and haul off the scrap.  The beach and the ocean, of course, recieves all the stuff that no one wants, asbestos, oils, and toxics, etc..  Doesn't sound like a part of the world that would be pleasant to visit IMHO. :P
Such is the global market.
Ray
Here is an official Indian govt. comment on the subject:  http://www.ips.org/Critical/Enviroment/Environ/env2208024.htm

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General Discussion / "All the Shah's Men" by Stephen Kinzer
« on: March 20, 2006, 01:41:20 AM »
Let me make clear, I did not write the following.  I am only quoting the preface to the book.  I think it is relevant to Listers/listeroids though, because of how the collapse of the British Empire in the Middle East created the market for Indian built Lister parts, and hence the Listeroid(s).  Quite interesting book however, much recommended, at least by me.

Preface to "All the Shah's Men", written by Stephen Kinzer.  Pgs. ix-x.

"One day I attended a book party for an older Iranian woman who had written her memoirs.  She spoke for an hour about her eventful life.  Although she never touched on politics, she mentioned in passing that her family was related to the family of Mohammad Mossadegh, who served as prime minister of Iran for twenty-six months in the early 1950's and was overthrown in a coup d'etat staged by the Central Intelligence Agency.
After she finished speaking, I couldn't resist the temptation to ask a question.  'You mention Mossadegh,' I said. 'What do you remember, or what can you tell us about the coup against him?'  She immediately became agitated and animiated.
'Why did you Americans do that terrible thing?' she cried out.  'We always loved America.  To us, America was the great country, the perfect country, the country that helped us while other countries were exploiting us.  But after that moment, no one in Iran ever trusted the United States again.  I can tell you for sure that if you had not done that thing, you would never have had that problem of hostages being taken in your embassy in Tehran.  All your trouble started in 1953.  Why, why did you do it.?'
This outburst reflected a great gap in knowledge and understanding that separates most Iranians from most non-Iraninans.  In Iran, almost everyone has for decades known that the United States was responsible for putting an end to democratic rule in 1953 and installing what became the long dictatorship of Mohammed Reza Shah.  His dictatorship produced the Islamic Revolution of 1979, which brought to power a passsionately anti-American theocracy that embraced terrorism as a tool of statecraft.  Its radicalism inspire anti-Western fanatics in many countries, most notably Afghanistan, where al-Qaeda and other terror groups found homes and bases.
These events serve as a stark warning to the United States and to any country thaat ever seeks to impose its will on a foreign land.  Governments that sponsor coups, revolutions, or armed invasions usually act with the conviction that they will win, and often they do.  Their victories, however, can come back to haunt them, sometimes in devastating and tragic ways.  This is especially true in today's complex and volatile Middle East, where tradition, history and religion shape political life in ways that many outsiders do not understand.
The violent anti-Americanism that emerged from Iran after 1979 shocked most people in the United States.  Americans had no idea of what might have set off such bitter hatred in a country where they had always imagined themselves more or less well liked.  That was because almost no one in the United States knew what the Central Intelligence Agency did there in 1953.
In his time, Mohammad Mossadegh was a titanic figure.  He shook an empire and changed the world.  People everywhere knew his name.  World leaders sought to influence him and later to depose him.  No one was surprised when TIME magazine chose him over Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, and Winston Churchill as its Man of the Year for 1951.
Operation Ajax, as the CIA coup against Mossadegh was code-named, was a great trauma for Iran, the Middle East, and the colonial world.  It set a pattern for years to come and shaped the way millions of people view the United States.
This book tells a story that explains a great deal about the sources of violent currents now surging through the world.  More than just a remarkable adventure story, it is a sobering message from the past and an object lesson for the future."

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Listeroid Engines / Air Filter
« on: January 09, 2006, 08:11:35 PM »
Hi everyone,
How many listeroids are using the stock oil bath air filter vs. changing to a paper filter?  If you changed, what did you use?  It seems the structure of the oil bath filter varies from engine to engine.  The paper filter recommended on the Utterpower CD would not fit in the oil bath canister provided with my PS engine.  What other choices are there?  Or, are the oil bath filters adequate?  Opinions welcome.
Ray

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