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I would like to purchase one ZR185 electric start, condenser cooling indirect injection if possible..
Is this how you want the list to go?

Mainly, I just want to be able to keep the engines quoted, their features and prices straight, without repeating and getting crossed up in PMs.

I'm happy to contact suppliers to answer questions, or pass you along directly to them via email or something.  I'm curious to know the questions y'all will have, as well as the answers.

After all the prices for all the engines and parts people are interested in are kind of lumped up, and questions have been answered to folks' satisfaction, and when we've decided how to handle the financial parts, we can make orders and arrange shipping.  This will be less-than-container-load (LCL), so higher dollars per ft^3 to ship and shuffle, but not such a big bite that we can't manage to chew it, hopefully.

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That is a good price I would like one r185 electric start = $325
If I needed some spare parts , how do I go about ordering those as well?

I started a new thread, called "PhunniPharm 'Official' ..." something-or-other, that carries prices as quoted by this supply house.

I'll ask the supplier if she has a spreadsheet with parts lists and prices, or something.  Best I can figure is, I can ask her to take orders for parts in groups (one per customer) and have the engine and its parts prepped and boxed together.  Each box that comes through can be most easily routed to its intended recipient, that way.  Otherwise, I can weed through the parts and put them in boxes, and strap them to the pallet with the engine or whatever.  I dig the heck out of these little machines, and I'd appreciate it if someone did that for me, so I'm happy to do it for someone else.

In the future, if I can start selling inefficient air compressors, I'll figure out a different cost structure and try to import a few select models if I can put a few shekels together, to seed my plot.

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Hi all,

As suggested by another member, I wanted to open this thread to contain a list of "officially interested in this engine, can we find a good price" posts, and keep a running list.

So far, I have found these prices, from a friendly supplier.  I will find out more details about the engines, as asked.  This is as much a learning experience for me, as it is an unknown risk for you, so be patient.  I'm still figuring out what is really important, and taking stock of the shape of that market for engines.

I'll add 30% to these listed prices, to cover the ride over and the trip through the port.  I don't think that's unreasonable.  I'm not looking to make any money on this deal.  Amend the stated price of $220/ea. for R165Ms accordingly.

R165M: $156
     electric start, indirect injection, evaporative cooling, unknown brand (have asked for specifics)

KM186: $675
     electric start, injection type unknown (but will not vary), water pump cooling, Sanjia brand clone.  Laidong/Kama available from a different supplier, at potentially a higher price.

ZR185: $288
    electric start, direct injection, radiator cooling, Sanjia brand clone.  I am probing suppliers to find branded engines, but some these may not be available.

(Ask for indirect injection and other configs, if interested)

Aluminum CNF173F (Yanmar clone): $177
    recoil start, assume direct injection, unknown brand

(I was offered the CNF173F engines instead of the older-style cast-iron engines with the V-belt pulleys.  I like the older-style cast iron engines better, so I probably won't purchase any of these myself, from this supplier, but if anyone else is interested, here it is...)

xx190, xx195, R175NLM: Pricing and info asked for.

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https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/More-economical-marine-diesel-engine-Single_1600230676619.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_title.4ae6428buH9Tsr... Scroll about half way down to see the engine specs.

Kinda of like the newer model 185 electric start, condenser style cooling.. ST10 single phase

The price they came back with for electric start R185, is $288.  With the ride over, I can sell that for probably $325.  The engine pictured is tagged "Sanjia", but I'm asking further questions.  I know that company is another engine supplier, like Taian Up and the supplier I'm talking with primarily, right now, so I'm not sure why this company would be selling an engine branded by Sanjia.  Maybe Sanjia has its own factory and builds engines, too?  I don't know about their quality, though.

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I was wrong.  That supply house offers pre-built generators, not ST alternator heads.

But, if you want to buy an alternator, it's welcome to ride over with my stuff and I'll drop stuff at Fastenal or UPS to make the rest of the journey.

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The supply house I'm working most with at the moment, also sells alternators.  They have 10kw single- and three-phase units, as well as larger (and probably smaller) units.

If you are interested in talking alternators with them, I'll gladly put you in touch.  I've got nothing to hide... Hah...

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One more thing.. Have you seen the chinese 2105a-6 diesel engines? Looks kind of like a petteroid single flywheel. Water cooled, 1500 rpm, 24 horsepower and over 400kgs  :o At less than half price of a 28/2 India made petteroid clone..

It just now dawned on me... Did you want me to try to find one of these available as a single?

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I think I've found a source for electric start SD1130s, for immediate shipment.

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I will pm my shopping list to you if that is ok..

Cool.

From what I read there are 10 horror storys for every success story.

That sounds like a totally familiar story.

If searching does not come up with your answer's, start a new thread and ask some questions. Lot's of smart help here.

I'll search and ask, but heck, if I get busy with paying work and don't post for a few weeks, am I gonna be hailed as a flake?

 ;D

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One more thing.. Have you seen the chinese 2105a-6 diesel engines? Looks kind of like a petteroid single flywheel. Water cooled, 1500 rpm, 24 horsepower and over 400kgs  :o At less than half price of a 28/2 India made petteroid clone..

I've been drooling over those for a couple of years now.  I have decided I will have at least one of these doing something on my homestead, even if I have to make an excuse, like "The neighbors will want someone to grind lots of flour for them, when SHTF, so I obviously need this engine and a flour mill in the machine shed."  I'm totally in love with them... so insanely simple...

Unfortunately, S may have just HTF, so I'm trying to get stuff out of China as soon as possible before we stumble into a war with them.

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One of the supply houses is very interested in selling air compressors... :-) Does this supply house stock all the regular sizes 165-1130 ? Be alot easier to get them all from one warehouse I would imagine.

It is a pretty new contact for me, but yeah, the vendor who can lay hands on R165 electric start engines is the one currently showing interest in collaborating with me.  The prices aren't bad, and she knocked off $100 on the price of a KM186 to meet another vendor's price.  I'd feel bad if I didn't do what I could to purchase one, at least.

This supplier seems to handle engines from every manufacturer, and claims to stock a full line of spare parts for all of them.  I'm testing that out a little, and grabbing a couple spares for my Laidongs.  I'm going to torture one of those by feeding it wood gas, at some point.  I want a sacrificial cylinder head, in case I want to try to install a spark plug.  Not sure, really, how the head and injector are configured on the LDs, but I'll tear one down and measure it up soon, and make sure it's clean and ready to run.  I've never laid actual eyes one one of these engines yet, so unboxing will be like Christmas in July.

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Kinda of like the newer model 185 electric start, condenser style cooling.. ST10 single phase

I'll ask my suppliers what prices they can meet for 185 electric start engines.  Are you interested in more than one engine, or do you need any spare parts while you're shopping?

I haven't bought a Chinese alternator (yet), and I'm not terribly familiar with that market.  I've been looking around at it a little, because I'm seriously considering a unit I can play with to control the output voltage.  If I rectify that voltage, I can dump the results directly into my NiFe bank.  Any caveats you can offer, would be appreciated.

One of the supply houses is very interested in selling air compressors... :-)

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Hi Keith,

There seem to be no twin flywheel engines available.  The company that was making the "Redstone" engines (JSD1800 and JSD3200) says they are no longer making them.

Their target market was Afghanistan, and those folks switched to solar panels for most of their needs, or so their story goes.  They suggested SD or LD engines.

If you're interested in picking up a 4-pole generator head, I'm sure it could ride along just fine.  Have you done your shopping already?

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I made a post there.  Thanks!

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Just a thought, might reach out on other platforms as well. Farcebook Marketplace perhaps?

Is there a small diesel-focused group there, that would concentrate interest?

Just throwing something up on FB Marketplace probably would not draw the right eyes.

This forum seems to be the most active place on the Internet, at least that I can find, for people interested in these engines.  That's why I'm here.  :-)

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