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Oh yes there are definately way more good people than flakes here. Great forum and super helpful guy's and gals. :)

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I remember when you rolled your eyes at this guy before you edit your reply.. I think it was "here we go again" ::) Can you repost it as you were correct.. He has not logged back on in over 6 weeks.. I am not sure why people even bother to start threads like this. Same with the joker's who list items for sale then never return.

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''One of my good engine customers saved some of my rambles here in these two dropbox links. Maybe what some of you are looking for''.   Wow, yes that will do. Thank you for posting that up. I am going to be up late again tonite.

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Is the pdf version of the indian engine buildup A-Z version still here? I may have missed it somewhere. Thanks.

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Phunnipharm, watched the video, interesting. Any more updates? Would it be easier to make a short list of the engines to import? It looks like everyone wants a different engine. One guy wants one or two 165 engines. One more wants a 180. Three 195's etc etc. Might be simpler to say this is the list of what I am ordering 175's 185's and redstones if you can get them. Or what everyone can agree too. Or I am totally wrong, and it is not a problem to get whatever you want from your china supplier?

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Top quality Listeroid exporter
« on: April 02, 2022, 03:03:52 AM »
Yessiree I have finaly located that Listeroid "manufacturer" with good engines. Customer left one here to be checked over. Literature says ISO 9001 manufacturer of top quality agricultural equipment, quanteed no sand and correctly assembled.  ;D  ;D ;D
Check out the garbage in this twin block! last pic is a pile of sand and slag I removed in about 20 minutes with a needle scaler, about 100 times what it would take to ruin the engine. Plus the oil pump intake was completely covered by a slipped core and casting flash.  This engine would have been toast in 30 minutes or less. People often ask, is it realy necessary to take them all the way down?? You all be the judge.
                                                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                                                             
  As far as I can tell not really a surprise or big deal anymore. Been this way since GeorgrB started importing them many years back. As the saying goes it is like putting steak sauce on dog shit. And they want top dollar here for these things lol.
                                                                                                                                                                                I am sure glad a few other fella's on another forum warned me about these roids being overly hyped up about nothing. And can do alot better with most of the newer 2-3 cylinder diesel engines out there, for cleaner,cheaper to run and maintain. Plus last more hours. jmo.                                                                                                                                     
 Happy I did not ending up shelling out $2500-$4000 for one brand new. Ya I can clean the sand and slag out of them easy enough. But if they are that careless when building them in India,  then there is probably even more wrong with them.

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Things I want to Buy / Re: Generator head pulley
« on: February 12, 2022, 11:16:15 PM »
I machined exactly one of those pulleys when a serp drive was necessary or one would get thrown out of the cool club. If I priced making another one even at zero profit I would get laughed at.  Truth of the matter is the actual HP savings over a V belt drive is so neglegable that it cannot been determined except in a laboratory setting. Everything I have set up since that first one uses 2 A section belts, 8.5 OD 2 belt sheave which will have a pitch diameter of around 8.25 depending on manufacturer and engine speeds of 630 RPM or so.
Of course it is up to you how you spend your money but that whole serp belt deal was mostly an unnecessary and expensive fad. If you are dead set on saving a quart of fuel per year via tbe belt drive then go with a V belt pulley and instead of a standard belt purchase a box of A section link belt from Fenner Drives.
   I agree 100% The serpentine belt "may" have a slight advantage vs the standard 2 A belt v pulley and I guess it looks cooler.. 2 qaulity A belts on a v pulley has been around for since the beginning. JMO.. And I realize this is not an answer to the op's original question.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Import of Listeroids - Food for thought
« on: January 28, 2022, 10:33:51 PM »
Hi VP, Nope not sure about anything. But what I was thinking is it is part of an engine. What is the difference between shipping a cylinder head and crankshaft from India OR a bare block that is about as ready to run as a crankshaft or any other single listeroid part that gets shipped here everyday. Maybe I am just not getting it,  How about this way. Say I have a genuine lister or a listeroid and the crankshaft broke and took a piece of the crankcase with it. I already own the engine before the ban, I cant get individual parts shipped for my engine? They dont have to know if it is furniture or an engine. It would be labeled engine part , not trying to fool anybody and get an engine shipped and calling it a table saw. Not hoping to sneak by all the you call morons there at the EPA.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Import of Listeroids - Food for thought
« on: January 28, 2022, 08:08:43 PM »
I have been contacting one of the India companies that sells listeroid parts. They are one of the few that actually have the foundry to pour cast iron. Most of the rest are just parts assemblers that get their parts form the few bigger companies there. This company advertises a 6/1 empty crankcase and will ship to USA. Have not received a complete price yet but it is possible. Cant see the EPA complaining about a cast iron block being shipped here.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Import of Listeroids - Food for thought
« on: January 28, 2022, 08:00:27 PM »
IMO the best way to import these is not to import engines but parts. The question is when does an engine go from parts to an engine legally. Based on my conversations with cbp that is a very grey line.
                                                                                                                                                                       

You can already buy them from Gary at DES as a kit where the bottom end is assembled and the top end is in another box on the same crate roughly $2300 plus shipping for a 6/1.                                                                                                   
Jim Caldor in Ontario Canada sells them as air compressors to his customers in the USA. Also roughly $2400. Sends the cylinder head and fuel system parts in a different box a few days later.

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