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Engines / Re: Changfa DRAG RACING
« on: April 10, 2023, 10:37:23 PM »
They are diesels.. they do put out black smoke for a few seconds.. They most likely are adding some additives to the fuel.. Some top secret bio diesel??  I wound not think they are going to modify all those diesels to run on gasoline.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: 800 hours on 16/2...Toilet Paper Filter
« on: February 18, 2023, 03:30:06 PM »
The links do not work for me..

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Things I want to Buy / Re: need parts to rebuild ST1 engine
« on: February 17, 2023, 11:03:17 PM »
I have the ST1 complete service manual in pdf form. It describes what you are asking on pages 59-61..

It looks like forum will not let me upload the complete document.. But I can copy and paste the link .. try this..

https://www.winget.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/LISTER-ST-WORKSHOP-MANUAL.pdf

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Lister Market Place (things for Sale) / Re: Metro 6/1 setup and ready to go
« on: February 03, 2023, 10:43:18 PM »
That did not take long.. keeping the 25/2 I hope ??

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Listeroid Engines / Re: 12/2 Gib key will not budge
« on: January 14, 2023, 11:31:20 PM »
''I had a stuck gib-key.  Nothing would move it.  So, I wound up machining a jig that fit perfectly into the key-way. Then, I spotted and drilled a "pilot hole" in the jig, that would keep the drill bit perfectly centered in the jig, ergo also the key.  A long drill bit of ~ 3/8 inch (I really don't remember) drilled it out.  I saved that jig in the Listeroid "fix-it" box, just in case I needed it again.''

That is a great tip.. In fact I was almost going to do something like that for one of the flywheels.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: 12/2 Gib key will not budge
« on: January 14, 2023, 07:51:11 PM »
Made some progress with the needle scaler.. It has some sand hidden in pockets here and there.. I was expecting more. But have not finished it yet either..

The India assemblers spend so much time with that lousy bondo/plaster filler to make the outside as smooth as possible before they paint them.. 

Would that time be better spent with an old needle scaler and a little air compressor?  Even just 30 minutes would do alot for the sand problems in the crankcases.  They never even painted under where the cylinders and lifter blocks sit from underneath.

I guess this engine was barely run, bearings have some marks, but I think everything is going to be reuseable after cleaning all the parts.  Hopefully I got lucky. ::)

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Listeroid Engines / Re: 12/2 Gib key will not budge
« on: January 11, 2023, 09:09:42 PM »
This one has some as well. Even a little is to much. But I am gonna flip this thing upside down. And get everything I can.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: 12/2 Gib key will not budge
« on: January 11, 2023, 06:21:39 PM »
Well done Keith71, brute force and ignorance sometimes works, I should know, they don`t come anymore brutish or ignorant than me!
Did you get both flywheels off?
Will you be posting pics of the engine restoration?

Bob


Yes both flywheels and crankshaft end housings are off.
Sure, I will include a few different pictures and angles of a coffee mug filled with casting sand 8)

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Listeroid Engines / Re: 12/2 Gib key will not budge
« on: January 10, 2023, 08:26:58 PM »
 I get what you were saying 38ac..  I should have just never posted the pic of that tool after 2 days of on and off beating on it.. It was a poor representation of what I was trying to show.. I kept adding different pieces of metal to the tool as I was going along instead of making something new each time. You guy's must have said what the hell is that thing lol.

But anyway I guess my biggest problem was I was using your advice 2 days before you posted it. About wacking the flywheel in while the puller was on it..  I was just not hitting it hard enough. Not nearly.. After I read your post I went out there and hit it like I meant it and how you said to do it, and whatta ya know it moved...

Guess I was worried to much about the India cast iron flywheel quality and thought I might break the dam thing..
Those flywheels are stronger than they get credit for..

So thank you 38ac.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: 12/2 Gib key will not budge
« on: January 07, 2023, 01:58:22 AM »
Look a Central Maine Diesel puller.
I made my own.
Patience.
   Thanks 32 patience is everything.. The first puller I used was like that one from CMD. It was an Indian piece. Stripped threads, retap to larger size stripped again.. I threw that out in the field somewhere.  If it is possible, I would like to do a 12/2 with aluminum pistons (not from India) and the stover type flywheels.. Maybe someday.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: 12/2 Gib key will not budge
« on: January 07, 2023, 01:41:16 AM »
38ac the puller is not welded to anything. It looks like a mess because it has had it beat up half the day today.  It looked nothing like it does now when I built it.  I knew people were going to have trouble seeing how it ws put together. It looked nothing like this when I started.. The globs as you say are holding the 4'' sq stock to the fork that is welded to the gib key.. You use what you have on hand.. Those globs will hold way way more than you may or may not know.   I tried hitting the flywheel back against the bushing with the puller pressure on it. But only used a 10lb sledge.. I know I will man up and hit it good with an 8-10 beater.  Thanks for the info, that may just bust this thing free.

I also only have about a 1/16'' from the back of flywheel to bearing housing. Hopefully it will just be enough.

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Listeroid Engines / Re: 12/2 Gib key will not budge
« on: January 06, 2023, 10:11:26 PM »
pic

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Listeroid Engines / Re: 12/2 Gib key will not budge
« on: January 06, 2023, 10:10:27 PM »
more pics

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Listeroid Engines / 12/2 Gib key will not budge
« on: January 06, 2023, 10:07:05 PM »
Hi all, Tried the usual first tool/tools. Gib key puller. Alot of money for a tool made in India. Inferior cast/steel is what I believe I received.. Broke it fixed it, stripped it fixed it. stripped again and it got flung into the pine trees behind the house..

Time to break out the mig. Gib key is roughly 9/16'' wide. So made a fork out of 5/16 plate that would slide around the key to about the face of the flywheel. Welded it up both sides.  Used 4'' square to slide over crankshaft. This is to keep the tool from riding up and bending or breaking the weld at the gib key/fork connection..

Time for some fun, 3ft breaker bar with 2 ft extension. BIG ASS jaw puller. Way overkill you would think, This key has been soaking for a month. Tried every trick I know. Tighten the breaker bar up real tight, and hit it with a wedge at same time.  The funny thing is it looks like the assembler tapped the key home properly. No evidence of dents and hammer blows.

I know the tool looks goofy now but that is after a day beating it grinding it welding it. Air hammering it etc. I would have thought this setup would have made it much easier than the india gib key made from recycled automotive sheet metal. 

Time for the sawzall and sacrifice one of the spoked wheels to get this thing apart?  Starting to run out of ideas and do not want PANIC to set in..  Any suggestions?     Thanks.

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General Discussion / Re: Next! 16/2 Lister
« on: December 09, 2022, 08:18:33 PM »
Old timer engines will indeed ship to the USA. Shipping may be a bit high depending on your order.

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