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Things I want to Buy / Generator head for a Lister SR2
« on: January 20, 2018, 03:19:49 AM »
I'm looking for a generator head for a Lister SR2.  I want the "bolt on" variety -- 8 bolt bell housing type.  5-8 KW.  ---Thanks

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Lister Based Generators / Best Generator head for a Lister SR2
« on: January 20, 2018, 01:09:55 AM »
   I posted this on another thread, as well as this one.
   I will be acquiring a Lister SR2 project, soon and was looking for some advice as to the best generator head to bolt up to it.  Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated! I'll need a 5-7.5 KW bolt on head -- not a belt driven one.--- Thanks,
                                                                                                                             Charlie


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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Best Generator for a Lister SR2?
« on: January 19, 2018, 05:51:08 PM »
  I really don't want to use a belt driven generator.  This Lister will take a "bolt on" type generator -- circular bolt pattern - 6 or 8 bolts.  If I went belt driven, then I would have to buy a stub shaft adapter and pulley's and belts and a mount.  Bolt on works much better on this engine.  I used to have an HR2 with a 15 KW Lima Brushless Alternator when I lived in the Bahamas.  That was a super generator!  The SR2 is the "Little Brother" to the HR2.   This engine will need a 6-8 KW generator.  -- Charlie

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Best Generator for a Lister SR2?
« on: January 19, 2018, 03:19:26 PM »
I will be acquiring a Lister SR2 project, soon and was looking for some advice as to the best generator head to bolt up to it.  Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated!  Thanks,
                        Charlie

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Listeroid Engines / Re: New Member Resurrecting 12/2 lovson
« on: December 20, 2017, 10:42:20 PM »
Hi-
  If you will contact Joanna at Lovson (joanna@lovson.net) You'll find her very helpful.  Send her info on your unit - serial #, etc. and she'll tell you when it was manufactured.  They were quite helpful with my Lovson 10/1 project.  They can send you any parts you may need. --Cheers,
                                                                                                                                                                                   Charlie

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Listeroid Engines / Re: 10/1 Lovson From Radiator to Tank Cooling
« on: November 12, 2017, 01:47:36 PM »
OK, Guys -- One more time!-
  My overall goal is max simplicity and reliability.  The fewer "gizmos and moving parts" - the simpler. Fewer things to fail.  I DID have a quality voltage regulator - and it worked OK - but still had to be adjusted properly or else a dead battery - and then, an overheated engine.  Yeah, I could have finally got it adjusted properly and then no more problems - maybe - hopefully.  I opted for the more tried and proven simpler thermo-siphon cooling system - thus eliminating the requirement for a fan, generator, voltage regulator and battery.  It cranked by hand just fine.  However, that left me with a perfectly good battery and a brand new starter/generator that I paid a lot of bucks for.  I figured that - being as I'm now 75 and not getting any stronger - that I'd put the starter back in service, but make it simpler - for those times that I couldn't crank it by hand - and it works great!  After it's cranked up and running, I no longer need the starter being driven by the engine.  Remember, my runs are for long periods of time - sometimes days - not short battery charging runs of a couple of hours.  That little battery charger/maintainer is about as foolproof as can be.  The anti-gulping valve is about as foolproof as can be, also. -- Charlie

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Listeroid Engines / Re: 10/1 Lovson From Radiator to Tank Cooling
« on: November 11, 2017, 01:36:11 PM »
  My Thermostat DOES have the vent hole in it.  Adjusting the valve to control the coolant flow should be no problem (when I finally run it under full load) because I have two temp gauges to help me get it "just right"! 
  As for the Starter --- it IS a Starter/generator from a golf cart.  I previously had it belted up permanently to function as a starter and to charge the battery and drive the cooling fan (when I had the radiator set-up). It needed a voltage regulator and it was problematic -- so I went to the termo-syphon system --- bulletproof simple.  By flipping the belt off after starting, I have one less rotating mass, one less belt to worry about.  Again - Dirt Simple!  The little automatic battery maintainer takes care of the battery just fine. ------ Charlie

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Listeroid Engines / Re: 10/1 Lovson From Radiator to Tank Cooling
« on: November 09, 2017, 03:09:56 PM »
  Finished!! (I think).
   OK, I just finished up everything.  Added a cylinder head temp gauge to track the actual head temp.  Removed all of the battery charging stuff from the Starter/generator system.  Drilled a 1/2 inch hole in mounting base and found a 1/2" handle from a mop (even had a green sleeve on it!).  Used it as a tensioning lever.  Added start button to Connection box on top of Gen head.  Added a 1 amp automatic battery charger/maintainer to keep battery topped up.  Start system is now super simple and works GREAT!  After engine starts, just kick belt off with start handle (no problem).  Foolproof KISS system.  Can still hand crank, if necessary.  Cylinder head temp runs about 180 degrees (no load) - nice and steady.  Thermostat gauge goes up and down - as thermostat opens and closes.  Range is about 140 to 210 degrees - no load.  Will still need to make final adjustments to anti-gulping valve after I get a chance to run it with a load.

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Lister Market Place (things for Sale) / Re: Radiator Setup for 10/1 Lovson
« on: October 11, 2017, 02:41:10 PM »
  I have completed my conversion from Radiator to Tank Cooling.  I removed all of the radiator stuff and installed a 55 gallon drum with a 195 degree thermostat and a valve in the lower hose to control 'gulping' and a temp gauge with sensor in a bronze tee about 3 inches out from the upper flange.  Things seem to be working fine, so far.  I did about a two hour test run today (no load) and played with the 'anti-gulping' valve - searching for the 'sweet spot'.  I think I'm pretty close -- but of course things will change when I put a load on it.  Right now, the temp gauge slowly goes up to 205 for a moment after the thermostat opens, then drifts down to 195 for a couple of minutes then slowly goes down to 160.  The temp stays there for 2 or 3 minutes, then slowly goes back up to 205 - starting the cycle all over again.  I can control the amount and timing of the temperature swing by playing with the valve.  Still experimenting - but I'm happy with things, so far.  I'm going to check actual cylinder head temp swings with an infra-red temp gauge (as soon as I get one).
  After a two hour run (no load), only the water above the upper hose got hot - about 120 degrees or so.  The lower two thirds of the drum was still cool but getting warmer ever so slowly. -- That'll change with a load, though.
  I'll report back after I've had a chance to thoroughly test things with a load after 5 or 6 hours or so.
                                                                                                                                        Cheers,
                                                                                                                                             Charlie

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Listeroid Engines / 10/1 Lovson From Radiator to Tank Cooling
« on: October 09, 2017, 07:29:28 PM »
  I have completed my conversion from Radiator to Tank Cooling - as discussed in another thread (things for sale).  I'm posting the results here because I think I'll get more feedback from folks!
  I removed all of the radiator stuff and installed a 55 gallon drum with a 195 degree thermostat and a valve in the lower hose to control 'gulping' and a temp gauge with sensor in a bronze tee about 3 inches out from the upper flange.  Things seem to be working fine, so far.  I did about a two hour test run today (no load) and played with the 'anti-gulping' valve - searching for the 'sweet spot'.  I think I'm pretty close -- but of course things will change when I put a load on it.  Right now, the temp gauge slowly goes up to 205 for a moment after the thermostat opens, then drifts down to 195 for a couple of minutes then slowly goes down to 160.  The temp stays there for 2 or 3 minutes, then slowly goes back up to 205 - starting the cycle all over again.  I can control the amount and timing of the temperature swing by playing with the valve.  Still experimenting - but I'm happy with things, so far.  I'm going to check actual cylinder head temp swings with an infra-red temp gauge (as soon as I get one).
  After a two hour run (no load), only the water above the upper hose got hot - about 120 degrees or so.  The lower two thirds of the drum was still cool but getting warmer ever so slowly. -- That'll change with a load, though.
  I'll report back after I've had a chance to thoroughly test things with a load after 5 or 6 hours or so.
                                                                                                                                        Cheers,
                                                                                                                                             Charlie

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Lister Market Place (things for Sale) / Re: Radiator Setup for 10/1 Lovson
« on: October 01, 2017, 09:24:50 AM »
   My generator is strictly for power outages (as opposed to battery charging) -- so the length of the run depends on the length of the outage.  I typically shutdown around 11 PM and start up again around 7 AM.  I will watch the evaporation rate and deal with it as needed.  I'll put a water level indicator on the drum and maybe install an automatic fill device (a la pet feeder/waterer) -or just re-fill by hand if the evaporation rate isn't too bad.  There will be a bit of a learning curve with this system, also - but thanks to all the info here on this board, it shouldn't be too bad! ----- Charlie

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Lister Market Place (things for Sale) / Re: Radiator Setup for 10/1 Lovson
« on: September 30, 2017, 03:06:47 PM »
  A treasure trove of information here, gentlemen!  I have been digesting all of it.  I'm starting on my cooling tank project, today.  I'll keep you posted and will also post some photos as I go along.  I've decided to add a 110V fan blowing down and across the top of the drum for those extended run times.  We'll see -! --- Cheers,
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Charlie

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Lister Market Place (things for Sale) / Re: Radiator Setup for 10/1 Lovson
« on: September 28, 2017, 08:36:26 PM »
  Everything that you say has merit, Glort -- but, everything that you are saying seems to add complexity to the system and my goal is simplicity.  My Starter/generator worked fine --- the battery slowly died (and fan slowly died) because I failed to re-adjust the voltage regulator after adding the cooling fan.  I didn't feel like doing that in the middle of the night - (time consuming) - hot 'roid, hurricane and all that!  Disconnecting the drive belt and hooking up the battery charger was a lot easier and quicker.  The 100+ hour run showed me some of the weak points (or less reliable points) in my system.  The fan didn't fail, the fan controller didn't fail, the radiator didn't fail, the starter/generator didn't fail - (but any of them could have).  Going to a tank system eliminates all of those things.  A 55 gallon drum, some fittings and hose, a 195 degree automotive thermostat, a temperature gauge - all with a low risk of failure --- just add water and some anti-freeze (I'm in Florida, so it doesn't take much) and the problem is solved!  I'll leave the starter/generator in place - but disconnect the belt.  It's there for when I  get too old or feeble to hand crank it!  BTW - the starter/generator works very well --- but it's still another belt driving something -- another potential failure item!  A hand crank is hard to beat when it comes to simplicity and reliability!! ------ Cheers,
                                                                                                                                                                                                   Charlie

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Listeroid Thermostat
« on: September 25, 2017, 11:00:21 PM »
   Thanks for the info, Hugh ----- just what I needed!

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Listeroid Engines / Listeroid Thermostat
« on: September 24, 2017, 04:00:44 PM »
  As I mentioned in an earlier post, I'm converting my Lovson 10/1 from a radiator cooled system back to a Tank/ thermo-siphon system.  I removed the 195 degree thermostat earlier and now want to re-install it -- but Murphy reigns supreme in my shop and, for the life of me, I can no longer find it!!  My question is: Can I go down to the parts store and buy a regular type thermostat?  Will it fit? - or do I need a genuine Lister (listeroid) part?  Any advice will be appreciated!

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