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Petteroids / Re: PETTER - PAZ1 - New project
« on: September 12, 2019, 09:22:27 AM »
Hi VP, the figures look good. The two things you do not want to see are 0 ohms (burned out with a short circuit) and infinity or open circuit (burned out with broken wires)

Looks like you got lucky so far.  Been thinking about that generator and the letters PL, could it be that it is LP for Lister Petter? As far as I know neither Lister or Petter ever made their own generator heads, instead they bought them from outside sources like Brush, Markon and Dunlite but I might be wrong.

I do not know what nationality have that sort of electrical outlet, some countries in Europe have similar outlets. I am hoping it is not an American unit as it will be 110 Volt rather than 240 volt as used in Europe. If it is a 110 volt unit it may be possible to convert it to 240 volt depending on how it is wired. I would recommend that you visit your local airport or supermarket/hardware store and purchase an international electrical travel adapter and find out which one fits.

I will be starting to renovate the coils on my little generator tomorrow and will post some pics and info as I go.

Bob

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Lost 38AC stuff on Camshaft Understanding
« on: September 12, 2019, 08:55:29 AM »
Hi Mike, well done for saving that information, I hope you haven`t infringed on anyone`s personal copyright or anything like that. At the time you copied the information it was freely available on the forum.

I just checked YouTube and there are still some videos that were posted under the handle "the38ac". I hope he doesn`t intend to take them down as they are very good.

Bob

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Petteroids / Re: PETTER - PAZ1 - New project
« on: September 11, 2019, 11:02:29 PM »
Hi VP, I don`t recognize that generator however it is in a very similar condition to one I am working on. Mine is a 32 volt DC generator with an integral starter motor.

We both have the same problem with cloth covered rubber insulation having broken down. I will be striping the cloth insulating tape of each coil and soldering new wires in place before recovering the coils and varnishing them. I will probably start doing this tomorrow and will post some photos showing how it is done.

Here are a couple of photos of the coils as they are now.

Bob

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Engines / Replacing expensive old imperial bearings
« on: September 11, 2019, 09:49:39 AM »
Hi Guys, a while back I posted about an issue I was having with finding vintage Timken tapper bearings for an early 1950`s Cooper petrol engine. The bearings were available if I was prepared to cough up $350 each plus delivery and taxes. Rather than dump this nice vintage engine I decided to modify the crank shaft and housings to accept modern metric size tapper bearings. A lot of searching on bearing manufacturers web sites and a lot of phone calls to my local bearing supplier and I found NTN 32210 bearings would be an adequate replacement.

The outer diameter of these bearings is about 1.5 mm larger than the original, while the internal diameter is about 10 mm larger than the crankshaft, the width of the bearing is about 2 mm less than the original, a big issue with adjusting the end float! The load rating and life expectancy of the 32210 is a little lower than the originals but since one of the originals was still serviceable after 60 plus years I will have to live another fifty years to wear them out, not very likely but I live in hope!

The two housings have been in the lathe and bored out to take the 90 mm cup,  I have turned up two bushes to to enlarge the crank shaft from 1 9/16" to 50 mm, these have a 2 mm flange to allow for the difference in bearing width. This allowed me to cut gaskets to bring the end float back within tolerance.

I have posted some pictures, hope this will help someone in the same situation.

Bob


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Everything else / Upcoming deceased estate sale
« on: September 10, 2019, 01:03:47 PM »
Hi Guys, found this deceased estate sale while searching for information on my Cooper XD lighting plant: https://petermilling.com.au/clearing-sale-2/24/

Hope there are a couple of cashed up Australian engine collectors who might be interested.

Bob

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Lister SR1
« on: September 10, 2019, 11:12:45 AM »
You are welcome, if you need any other information please let us know.

Bob

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Listeroid Engines / Re: I thought I was a bit ......
« on: September 10, 2019, 10:10:14 AM »
No doubt about, it Mrpisorange is a most creative and useful mammal with a very understanding Wife.

Bob

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Lister Market Place (things for Sale) / Re: LEF Document Store - thoughts
« on: September 10, 2019, 09:47:50 AM »
Thank you Listeroil, we just have to wait for Adev to set things up and we should be good to start uploading old manuals. I hope he can come up with something simple with a good indexing system that will allow users to easily find the information they need.

Wish this had been suggested before I went to the Macksville rusty iron rally, there was a guy there with 500 or more old engine manuals, I might have had to buy the lot!  :laugh: My local agricultural spares dealer has a huge collection of old manuals, I might have to pay them a visit and offer to convert them to PDF for free, provided I get to keep a copy.

Bob

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Lister Market Place (things for Sale) / Re: LEF Document Store - thoughts
« on: September 09, 2019, 01:53:54 PM »
You beauty, I have manuals for a lot of older Australian engines, cooper, southern cross, moffat virtue and etc + a lot of Lister stuff. We need to get AdeV to organize a depository.

Bob

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Lister Market Place (things for Sale) / Re: LEF Document Store - thoughts
« on: September 09, 2019, 12:53:18 PM »
Thank you OSM, sorry to hear you are about to join me on the ageist economic scrap heap, lets hope we can both live long enough to start claiming the pensions we paid for and then another thirty years to get our money back.

While we are claiming, we should give as much as we can of our accumulated knowledge back to the community, we should also trying to ensure the lazy,greedy,profiteering do not benefit from our hard work, knowledge and experience.

So far we have two volunteers for the LEF old machinery library, what are the rest of you guys going to be doing?

Bob

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Lister Market Place (things for Sale) / Re: LEF Document Store - thoughts
« on: September 09, 2019, 09:55:37 AM »
Hi Mike, a PDF editing suite that removes all the unnecessary padding out of files sounds too good to be true. I will have a play with wetransfer and see how it goes.

Hi AdeV, I have thought for a while that the Lister Engine Forum is a little too limited in its scope of engine advice. I have personally posted quite a lot of stuff about other engine manufacturers both diesel and petrol. I have also tried to post some stuff about generator heads and how they work. I keep getting asked the same questions by different members and have to reply to them and explain the same stuff over and over again. A Wiki style information base could work well but neither you or I have the time to do it.

In Australia we have an organisation that runs what are known as men`s sheds. These are primarily designed to provide a safe environment in which our retired men folk can interact with each other and have social interaction with each other while doing something useful for the community and passing on their years of accumulated knowledge to the next generation. The larger men`s sheds have milling machines, lathes , welding equipment and etc while the smaller sheds make cuddly toys for the local hospitals and schools. I am certain that this organisation would be only too happy to get involved in archiving the engine history that they grew up with. They might be slow but they will be keen, diligent and free. They also probably have hundreds and hundreds of old engine manuals on the shelf at home.

Bob

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Lister Market Place (things for Sale) / Re: LEF Document Store - thoughts
« on: September 08, 2019, 12:44:14 PM »
Hi VP, I think an LEF library is exactly what is needed but it would take a lot of organization and time to administer it, so that it was available in an easily indexable way.

I suspect that AdeV has better things to do with his day than catalog 100,000 old service manuals. I hope I am wrong and that he is up for it but I have my doubts.  :)

Bob

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Lister Market Place (things for Sale) / Re: LEF Document Store - thoughts
« on: September 08, 2019, 12:26:17 PM »
Thank you Johndoh, Paypal might be the way to go, I know that a lot of sports and social clubs use it to crowd fund local institutions and facilities.

My only worry with this is that the moment money is involved we will then expect AdeV to organize an annual audit, pay the auditors, submit tax returns to the governments of any and all jurisdictions that contributed and etc. It could easily turn into a huge secretarial/accountancy nightmare that cost a fortune and returns nothing.

Probably easier to set up a file sharing site and do it for nothing. If, after a few years, we are getting a million hits a year then we could start introducing a small fee to pay for administration.

Bob

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General Discussion / Re: Hurricane Dorian
« on: September 08, 2019, 10:17:53 AM »
Since Glort apparently has the power to light up an entire city on his own, perhaps we should rename him Magneto or Dynamo, this should be followed by de-commissioning all fossil fuel generation plant and replacing it with Glort. Life expectancy of the Glort generating system is probably around 30 years depending on the load we put on him.

My recommendation is that if you are lucky enough to meet him face to face don`t shake his hand, could be fatal, depending on the load he is under.  :laugh:

Bob

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Lister Market Place (things for Sale) / Re: LEF Document Store - thoughts
« on: September 08, 2019, 09:51:53 AM »
Hi AdeV, a library of old service/maintenance manuals would be a godsend and a huge draw to this forum. I doubt there would be issues with copyright or patent infringement as most of the engines we are interested in are 50 years old or more. There are plenty of online sites where these manuals can be purchased for a small consideration. I suspect that LEF members have purchased a lot of these over the years and would be only to happy to share their manuals if there was a facility for doing so. If properly set up and regulated it might even provide a small income stream to help fund the LEF into the future. For example I would donate a full Lister ST workshop manual, a member wanting to know how to time a new or renovated injector pump could read how to do it for nothing, if they want to print a copy of the relevant pages there would be a fee of 10 cents per page. I do not want or wish to monetarist the LEF but personally I would be only to happy to cough up 50 cents for the information I want/need.

I have managed to email copies of various manuals to LEF members, the problem is that any emailed document over 25 megabytes gets bounced back. There are third party programs like dropbox that allow the sending of larger files. In the past I have had to print off the relevant pages, then scan them, before emailing them to members. This very time consuming and wastes a lot of ink and paper

I would recommend that the files be stored in PDF format with members able to view the manuals and have the ability to only print off just the few pages that are relevant to their particular problem.

The biggest problem with any forum that sells anything is that these transactions take place online and are susceptible to hackers and etc. I would prefer that we give the information away for nothing, rather than storing members personal details and credit card/paypal details, only to find the information has been stolen by a bunch of unworthy scumbags at a later date.

Bob

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