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Lister Based Generators / Re: Time for generators
« on: April 09, 2024, 09:36:11 AM »
G`Day from down under, there has been some progress on my generators. The PJ2 generator has been dismounted from the trailer and broken down into its component parts. The generator chassis has been stripped, painted, shimmed level and bolted to it`s concrete base.
The old CS has been brought out of the shipping container, where it has sat for 2 1/2 years. It has been leveled and bolted to It`s new concrete slab and it has been grouted in place with a 1 to 1 fine sand/cement  grout. I will have to wet the grout every day for a week to ensure it hardens properly. I hope this will be the last time I have to move the CS as I am definitely getting too old for this sh1t!
I also managed to remove the flywheel from the PJ2, should make it a lot lighter and easier to handle.
Couple of photos attached.

Bob

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Things I want to Buy / Re: Lister CE fuel pump required
« on: April 08, 2024, 09:38:49 AM »
Hi BruceV, if you are in Australia try contacting Rob at Old Timer Engines, he may not have what you need but he will know where to look.

Bob

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Lister Based Generators / Re: Time for generators
« on: April 08, 2024, 01:12:36 AM »
Hi Cujet, we can`t run the solar off grid at the moment. Paid a bit more for an inverter with the option to run off battery storage at night. Lithium iron batteries are still very expensive and I`m not happy to have them under our house as they have a very bad habit of catching fire and they are almost impossible to extinguish once alight. If I do go with battery storage I will put them in a small brick or concrete building away from the house.

Bob

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Lister Based Generators / Time for generators
« on: April 07, 2024, 10:42:57 PM »
G`Day from down under. As many of you will remember we lost our home to a bush fire in 2019. We purchased a property on the East coast of Tasmania and I moved here in 2021 once the covid travel restrictions allowed. I have spent the last couple of years putting up a new shed, landscaping the property, decorating and fireproofing our new home. The most recent project was to have a 7.5 Kw grid tied solar system installed, cost us A$9,000. Our quarterly electric bill has fallen from A$600 to A$13, should pay for itself pretty quickly. We are also going to change our electricity provider to get a better feed in tariff, we should end up with a credit balance during the summer months, with a small deficit in the winter.
So now it`s time to think about generator backup. I already had a restored Lister CS 6/1 and a modified ST5 generator head with an AVR, this should be adequate to keep the house lights burning and the fridges/freezers cold in an emergency. I also bought this trailer mounted generator 18 months back.

This is a 12.5 KVA three phase generator with a Petter PJ2 diesel motor. The generator head has four slip rings so it is in a Y configuration giving three 240 volt single phase outlets and one 415 volt 3 phase outlet. This unit will be dismounted from the trailer and used to provide backup power to the shed/workshop.
I don`t know how you guys spent your Easter but I spent mine pouring two concrete slabs.

The square slab at the back will have the Lister CS bolted to it. the slab is 200mm of reinforced concrete sat on a 1m deep 600mm reinforced concrete pile. The blockwork shelf will have a cooling tank sat on it.
The narrower slab will have the demounted Petter generator sat on it.
After inspecting the PJ2 engine the only apparent problem is that the push rod tubes have rubber sleeves covering the joins. These sleeves have become brittle and split. The bottom tube is 22mm and the upper tube is 19mm they are spring loaded so they can expand and contract as the engine cylinder heats up and cools down. I have not been able to find replacements for the rubber sleeves, I am wondering if heavy duty electrical heat shrink might work, what do you guys think?

I will be posting details of the Petter rebuild as I go

Bob



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Other Slow Speed Diesels / Re: lister petter Alpha series LPW3
« on: April 03, 2024, 10:15:36 PM »
Hi Mike, there is a company called Deep Sea Electronics. They specialize in generator control modules. Some of their products are also available on Ebay (search for Deep Sea generator controllers).
Hope this helps

Bob

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Hi Ernie, looks good. I still recommend replacing that selenium rectifier with a modern silicon bridge rectifier. Selenium rectifiers deteriorate over time, if you are going to use the originals please watch out for a smell a bit like garlic, this will be coming from a failing rectifier and is extremely carcinogenic, don`t breath it in!

Bob

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Hi Ernie, those resistors look to be in good condition. When I rebuilt my Lister generator I spray painted the resistors with a black exhaust manifold paint, looked good and stopped them from corroding.

Bob

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Other Slow Speed Diesels / Re: Bamford in a box
« on: March 23, 2024, 09:10:44 PM »
I would come and do the job for nothing, just for the opportunity to learn from the master. Sadly the commute from Tasmania might be a bit much.

Bob

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Good day Ernie, a very interesting question you have posted. You want to fit an AVR to a generator that outputs both 380 volt 3 phase at 50 Hz and also 220 volts at 50Hz. Your generator stator is wired in a Y configuration with the three phase coming off the three legs of the Y but you also have a fourth slip ring on the stator that comes off the centre of the Y, your 220 volts will be between that centre tap and one of the outer legs of the Y. I have never seen an AVR that could control both three phase output and single phase output, I am not saying that such a unit does not exist but if it does it might be very expensive.
I am curious to know why you want to fit an AVR, do you run a lot of very sensitive electronic devices? I ran a ST2 Generator with a single phase 7 KVA Brush generator for many years in Northern New South Wales, Australia, under no load it was dialed in to produce 240 volts at 50 HZ, at full load it would produce 235 volts at 49.7 HZ, not bad for a fifty year old generator set. I ran computers, TVs and all household electrical appliances off this unit without any problems.
Personally, I would replace the old selenium rectifiers with modern silicon rectifiers and then adjust the wire rheostats to get as close to your desired voltages as possible, check that the governor mechanism is working correctly and leave it at that. If you have sensitive electrical appliances, feed them off a UPS which will stabilise the voltage supply to those items.

Hope this helps,

Bob

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Other Slow Speed Diesels / Re: Bamfords knee deep
« on: February 15, 2024, 08:14:59 AM »
Hi Butch, looks like word has got out that you are a man that knows what he is doing. I`m still going through trying to get my workshop set up, but work has already started to roll in, don`t need it right now but word gets around.
I do hope that the quantity of incoming work is not going to impact your contribution on this forum
Thanks for your great advice to Hugh.

Bob
 

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Knocking, now what?
« on: February 15, 2024, 08:05:50 AM »
No wonder these flywheels are so difficult to remove if Butch is recommending urine rather than Loctite. well done guys, Hugh is back in business!

Bob

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Lister Based Generators / Re: 1925 Lister 2T and Generator
« on: February 09, 2024, 09:11:14 PM »
Here in Australia Mid Brunswick Green is available off the shelf in hardware stores, if they haven`t got it they can mix it for you. When I look at some of the amazing custom paint jobs on hot rods and motorbikes in the USA, surely someone there could mix it for you. I can only assume that some of the pigments needed are banned in the USA for environmental reasons.
Good luck with your search.

Bob

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Other Slow Speed Diesels / Re: Bamford in a box
« on: January 31, 2024, 08:42:32 PM »
I love doing jigsaw puzzles, don`t remember ever having to make any of the pieces though.
I hate having to make nuts and bolts, are any of them high tensile? How will you be heat treating them?

Good luck with it, I`m sure it will be another triumph.

Bob

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Spun the rod bearing, CRANKSHAFT is FUBAR
« on: January 18, 2024, 08:28:04 PM »
When I had to dismantle my CS, to have it shipped to Tasmania, the flywheels had also welded themselves to the crank, despite my having used an anti seize lubricant during assembly. Pullers and sledge hammer wouldn`t budge them. Eventually I gave up trying to pull them off and instead tried to get them to spin on the crankshaft. I took off the crankcase door, removed the piston and fed a piece of 4x2 between the big end and the crankcase. I then gently rocked the flywheels against the timber, once they started to move it allowed the ATF to get in and they came off easily.
Hope this helps,

Bob

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Spun the rod bearing, CRANKSHAFT is FUBAR
« on: January 17, 2024, 08:43:43 PM »
Hi Stef, Starfire came up with a very inventive way of doing emergency repairs using just hand tools and what was available locally. Hugh is probably looking for a more permanent and long lasting repair. I wonder what Starfire would have done about the damaged taper roller bearings.
I recently had to replace a pair of TRBs in a Cooper vintage engine, replacements were only available in the UK at nearly 500 pounds each. I machined the casings to take much more modern TRBs at a fraction of the cost.

I don`t envy Hugh trying to do this sort of work in the subzero temperatures where he lives.
Good Luck.

Bob

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