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Generators / Re: Stamford generator head
« on: March 02, 2017, 02:04:09 AM »
Quote from: dieselgman on March 01, 2017, 11:45:38 PM
Firstly, HR parts will not even come close to fitting your SR... so that stamping must be erroneous.

Secondly, Do not try to alter your output voltage by changing generator speed. Your unit should be adjusted for either 1500rpm 50Hz, or 1800rpm and 60Hz at the engine governor. Once that setting is achieved, then you would go to the finer adjustments on the AVR control to get your output voltage adjusted within your desired range.

dieselgman

OK thanks Diesegman,

It does talk (in the manual) about adjusting the transformer air gap..but I don't know where that would be...I know where the transformer is...but can't see any gap to adjust. Unless it's the gap , between the top of the transformer and the top laminate steel plates...other then that..I don't know...And the only reason that I thought..maybe slowing down the engine would work is..I don't really know if the motor is actually , doing 1800 rpm..don't have a tack.
But when I tested both legs they where at 131 volts.
Would it hurt anything running at this voltage. It's used for my shop, so skill saw, air compressor (5hp running)  ,welder (older)....
I know..I don't know a lot about gen heads, but it's something I need to learn about..and quickly! My ST10 Kw went down last night, so I put the Honda 5000 on charge duty..well that did work so well. Too small, but it worked , sort of. Got the ST10 , up and running today...bad brush..replace and good to go. But if the AVR goes south I don't know how to test..or bypass, if I could, and the rectifier well I guess you can see what I'm going though.
I know the basics ...how a generator works winding, field , but when it come to the AVR...I thought they where best used on a gas gensets to let the engine know that the load has increase..so up the engine rpm to compensate for rpm lost. And on , and on...need to find some more good info,on how to work on and test a generator.

I'm new (only 5 years off grid) so lots to learn.  If I could weld it, make a fiberglass mold and part, rebuild an old 350 small block...take a transmission apart and rebuild it, I'm guessing that I could..hopefully..learn a little more electrical how to. I hope..

And the SR and HR head thing...I knew I should have taken a pic...before I put new valve gaskets down....I just knew it LOL, what first brought it to my attention, was the heads where different, the one is just a little longer than the other, and the injectors where different, one was as, all the rest I have on my SR motors and the other was not like the other 5 spares I have.
If the weather stay good I'll take it back apart and get some pics and the injector too. I've never tried to post pic on here, but I can link some if required.

Thanks for all the help
Cheers
Brian

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Generators / Re: Stamford generator head
« on: March 01, 2017, 09:11:52 PM »
Well got the old Stamford gen head going today. But the volts are a little high...like 131 volts a leg..everything runs ...no start up leg on the air compressor. So I'm thinking ...slow down the SR2 , just a little and should be good to go...? right?
Also the SR2 I have it on,I pick up about 2 years ago. I had robbed in injector out of it, when the house gen cracked a injector nozzle , so I had to put a new injector in it and reseal the valve cover, and as I was cleaning up the heads I notice that one head had SR stamp on it and the other said HR has anyone ever hear of such a thing? And will it hurt the motor, I have about 50 hours on it .

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Lister 12/2 what our American colleagues might call a "barn find"?
« on: February 25, 2017, 02:19:03 AM »
If you had a dollar ( U.S. or even Canadian...LOL)  for every hour that motor has ran...well I bet you could go on a very nice vacation !!

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: I guess you Northern Hemisphere chaps would call this a Barn Find"
« on: February 25, 2017, 02:14:59 AM »
Love to have one of these old girls and at this price...maybe..., but i think it would cost more for shipping ( for me ) then the asking/selling price, but still would love to have one.
B

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Generators / Re: Stamford generator head
« on: February 21, 2017, 10:30:23 PM »
Quote from: dieselgman on February 21, 2017, 02:58:15 PM
Brian,

The SR models from the 1970s often had Prestolite starters (with only mechanical engagement). They would sometimes get stuck if the engine did not start and kick the gear back into the starter. These are now basically obsolete and replaced with Delco MT series starters.

If you have the ring gear in place, you are almost there. Just add a Delco spacer and studs and an appropriate Delco starter model for your engine rotation. You will need to identify the engine rotation as viewed from flywheel end...

dieselgman

Thanks Dieselgman, I have the adapter and studs, and it was an original start-o-matic.....that I got to about a year too late. The guy I bought it off of removed the gen head, proceeded to cut all the copper out of it . O well that's how it goes, anyway so it is a reverse rotation model.

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Generators / Stamford generator head
« on: February 21, 2017, 08:22:56 AM »
Hello everyone,
As you may recall I pick up old Lister SR2, with a Stamford gen head, sometime back in the summer months. Anyways haven't got to the rebuild on the SR2 yet...but it coming!!
My  home and shop are both off grid. The house has a full set up...batteries, solar, gen...etc. But the shop...not so much. I've been using an old Honda 5000, when it's needed. But a couple of days ago, I bought a small electric air compressor ( smaller then the 4 cylinder DV that has another SR2 on it) to do some air tool work in the shop. I have a sander,grinder, board sander, paint spray gun...you get the picture, not any big air tools, but ones that do take a bit of air.
But what I found is the little Honda 5000, don't like to run my new to me ,small air compressor...it will...but just barely, so I have a cheap..Jap 10 Kw ,that has very little hours on it, that I keep for my number 3 back up, for my back up genset :-) . So I got it out of storage , check everything, started right up, seem to run good, let it warm up, oil was new, when it was put in storage, so everything was great. Ran the shop compressor great! Until, the big bang!! The rod went though the top of the motor, and was laying on the gas tank!!!?? So o well never like it ...from the day,I bought it on sale.
So I took the SR2 off the Dv compressor and mount it on the Stamford gen head base. It took like 5 minutes, with the skid steer and some lifting straps. I'm glade I got the whole genset, and if anyone remember, the price was right!! I paid shipping..and got the Lister for FREE :-) from another member on this site , thank you very much, Mr Hugh...again!!

My problem is I can't get any power out of the gen head...I think I have it wired right, (Mr Hugh) also sent me the wiring diagram, and I'm usually pretty good at wiring thing up....but this one has me stumped.
I'm just not getting any output . I do get a reading of around 10-20 volts ( it slowly drops, as you hold the probes on the leds). Any ideas...do I need to  re-magnetize the field...or??
The gen head is a Stamford "D" range ac self exciting , number 8 frame, 4 wire, 220/115  rated at 8000 or 9000 watt (don't have the name plate in front of me).
And is it possible to install a newer type AVR, everything looks a little old and aged, if so..how would I go about doing so.
If anyone can help, that would be great! If anyone would like a copy of the manual for this gen head,( it cover the Stamford #8 and #10 frame from the 1970's) or think it would help , in helping out of my little problem. I can send you a copy if they wish.
Thanks, for all the great help ...in the past, and for years to come. One of these days, maybe , I'll be able to help others, and keep the old Lister alive!
Cheers
Brian

And Dieselgman , I'm going to be looking for a reverse rotation starter...or part number to get one. This SR2 has the ring gear, but no electric start, and at -10 I think it could be lots of fun trying to start .
  
  

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Engines / Re: Magical Honda Engine
« on: February 20, 2017, 02:45:44 AM »
If your just looking for a gen head...well I have a couple 3500 rpm heads kicking around. One is on a 9000 watt jap scrap gen. The motor just put the rod out of the side of the block..and an other on a 6500 watt genset, this one is an older(1980ish) Briggs 11 hp, both have good working gen heads, just NFG motors.
If your not too far to ship..then the price would be right!!I'm near Kingston Ontario Canada.
I was using both (one at a time) in my shop, until they went bang!!I have another Lister SR2 with a 10KW head, that I'm just finishing off for full time work in the shop...should have built the second Lister.. years ago for the shop!! Instead i spent $1000.00  junk, Jap scrap....
Cheers
B

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Engines / Re: Lister SR2 air compressor?
« on: February 02, 2017, 02:14:57 AM »
They been doing the VW air compressor for awhile, I think there around 90cfm's , but way too big for me. I have a large 4cyclinder DV, and am in need of a smaller unit. Goggle VW air compressors, the company that makes the kits are in the USA. Very nice units.

Brian

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Engines / Re: Lister SR2 air compressor?
« on: January 31, 2017, 11:56:33 PM »
Nice! haven't had much luck finding One...There in Canada, so I guess I'll have to try and build one...
This summer...maybe..I have a need ..but not a lot of time.
Brian

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Everything else / Re: Witte Engine Skid Base
« on: January 23, 2017, 10:36:09 PM »
Sure.  You just go down to the Mid-Pacific station next Friday afternoon and it'll be waiting for you.  The train may be a bit late so why not get yourself an ice cream and enjoy.   Wink

Something tells me your going to be .....really late!! LMAF

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Everything else / Re: Witte Engine Skid Base
« on: January 23, 2017, 02:05:26 AM »
Just stick it on the ...train...and ship it to....ME!!! ;D

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General Discussion / Re: Advice Needed - Generator Shed Build
« on: December 15, 2016, 02:17:58 AM »
I've lived off grid for about 5 years now.I have  a similar building as the one you are looking to build. My power supply/charge system, batteries ,generator all live in the same small addition on the side of one of my building. I think it's about 8x10ish....I live in Ontario Canada...and any building over 96 square feet needs a building permit, in my area . Anyways if you live in a colder climate as in Canada, I would highly suggest that you insulate the floor(some Styrofoam under the concrete floor)  and insulate the wall and floor(if the floor is made of plywood...wood etc.)
My setup has my SR2 inside the building, with the gen head on the outside( generator 1/2 through the wall) The heat from the SR2 heats the building, while drawing fresh air in from outside , from around the gen head.The gen head has a covered /roof assembly over it. Batteries stay warmer, fuel stays warmer...etc. Keeps the room dry! which is very important to me.....batteries...$3000.00.....inverter/charger.....$4000.00...solar charger.....etc.
Cheers
Brian

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Lister Market Place (things for Sale) / Re: Lister sr2 complete for sale Montana
« on: August 26, 2016, 02:42:44 AM »
I might be interested  too.Pics please to quinnbrian420@gmail.com, or text to 1-613-539-9493 Can you send me pics of the work manual too.
Cheers
Brian

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Engines / Re: Lister SR2 air compressor?
« on: July 13, 2016, 01:41:06 AM »
Quote from: dieselgman on July 12, 2016, 05:22:06 AM
We have some Hamworthy units built on ST2 blocks. I will try to get some pictures the next time I'm at our storage yard.

dieselgman

Thank you very much , that would be great :-)

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Engines / SR2 interchange-ability?
« on: July 12, 2016, 02:50:50 AM »
Hello all, I've only been collecting SR2 for about 3-4 years now, and my question is , are they ALL interchangeable.... Like. Can I take a cam out of a reverse rotation and put a regular rotation cam in its place...I know there's a little more to it... Like the cooling fan ...etc.
The reason I ask is I have an sr2 with a little different fan cover , from the rest. It has a notch on the fan side housing, unlike the sweeping  cowl, like the rest, and would like to utilize some starter parts form another SR2 that I just picked up ( thanks you Mr Hughes) :-).
These SR2 might not be an old 12-2 but they are a lot cheaper and a good way to become a little mechanically inclined with the Lister family... One day.... One day I'll buy 6-1 or 12-2 .
Cheers
Brian

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