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Lister Market Place (things for Sale) / Re: New Listeroids for sale
« on: May 13, 2019, 06:35:56 PM »Bare crackcase is better still, since slapping chaulky filler and epoxy over sand filled voids is well within Rajkot standards. Nothing you are attempting regarding Rajkot has not been tried before. They are incapable of maintaining any sort of quality control from one batch to the next. An honest seller would sell them as a kit of parts to be inspected carefully during the build, and replaced as needed. You should remove the 50,000 hrs, it makes you seem either naive or a con man.
I’ve been doing this for 25 years and I know what works when importing equipment from the developing world. You are correct, delivering on specific quality metrics is a problem with hand built machines. That’s why I’m not asking for specific quality metrics. I’m asking for simple procedures during the build that embed the quality factors I’m looking for. That can be consistently done. If the inside of the crankcase is cleaned and painted with a heavy epoxy paint you aren’t going to have a problem with sand. I haven’t found a sand problem with a Listeroid in the 5 or so years I’ve been doing this. As far as communicating my needs to the vendor, I ask for consistency with a clear and honest understanding that the next order is always dependent on the last order. In the 25 years I imported diesel engines and other equipment from China, that was the understanding and I was never disappointed. If however you are a one-off buyer that understanding does not apply. I’m not a one-off buyer. Indian businessmen are as pragmatic as anyone else. They want repeat business.
As far as being an “honest seller”, my products are warrantied. If you have a problem I’ll make good on fixing it, whatever it takes.
As far as the 50,000 hrs. These engines are built like tanks. I have Chinese diesels that I bought back in the 90’s and they are still working hard. Not only have none of them broken, they hardly even leak. These engines were designed mostly in the 30’s while Listers were designed even earlier and are even more over-designed for durability. I’ve read that Listers were designed for a 50,000 hr. MTBF and that wouldn’t surprise me.
Most customers don’t want to build from parts, that’s why they buy pre-built and tested units like mine. It’s my belief that doing what I do yields the same or better customer satisfaction than building from a bare crankcase would with a lot less time and aggravation.