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Engines / Re: Engine identification
« on: May 25, 2021, 12:54:00 PM »
Well done with that link AdeV.
It has a downloads section and manuals for free so coronos can have a look through them to identify his engine model.

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Hi Jim, I have a PDF of a A25Lister Air Cooled engine which is the SR1 engine. This has been my reference manual for my SR2. As I mentioned it is too large for me to post on the Forum but if you PM me with an email I can then forward it onto you if you like. Yes the first 2 pages are a bad scan copy of the manual but the rest is very clear. So it is yours if you want it.
Cheers cobba

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Engines / Re: Engine identification
« on: May 23, 2021, 07:09:38 AM »
What you need is your engine number and those numbers should be stamped into the block or sometimes I have heard on the head. If you have a thick layer of paint over the numbers then they will be hard to find so look for a machined flat section on the block or head and scrape away the paint to find the number.
Not sure if you have been in contact with a Lister parts supplier, he will be able to tell you exactly where to look.

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They would not attach sorry. Files are too big and I cannot compress them on this dinosaur.

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G'day Jim and welcome to the Forum. Love the narrow boats and I too would keep the name, it is very appropriate to the way of life on the canals.
I am guessing that they are 2 different gauges between pic 1 & 2 as there is a flange on the back of one gauge. I cannot read clearly what the face is on the 2nd pic but I am guessing it is the same as the top pic which is an oil pressure gauge. Obviously the end on that tube in the second pic needs a fitting but they are available and if the tube is not long enough again you can buy copper tubing and buy new fitting for both ends.
Now as for where to connect it. You need to go searching with a good light but start at the oil pump or filter to see a blanking plug and that should be the connection point.
I have not seen one of those taps before and I cant see where the bottom of the tube goes to so it would only be a guess and that is not helpful.
I will try to attach some info that might be of use in the future. If it doesn't attach I have no way of compressing the files to post on a Forum so would need an email to send them to.
Keep us informed as to any progress and do a Google search for a SR2 workshop manual there are free ones out there.

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Engines / Re: Engine identification
« on: May 22, 2021, 12:46:37 PM »
Although it looks a fairly newish engine I don't think that an ID plate would have been glued on. Usually they have very small rivets holding them on,
On older engine the plate usually is rivetted onto the block near the injector pump and below the head. It sounds as if you may need to do a very close search with a good torch light and look again for the ID plate.

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Engines / Re: Engine identification
« on: May 22, 2021, 06:47:19 AM »
That is a lovely looking set up. The pic with LP460 wont help anything as it is only a casting number nothing to do with model at all. Any numbers that are cast or embossed onto your engine are usually not relevant. Engine number stamped into the block are the ones needed like the numbers that you have supplied but without the key to the dating it makes it hard to work out especially with no ID plate riveted onto the side of the block.

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Engines / Re: Dismantling Lister D Governor mechanism
« on: May 22, 2021, 06:42:01 AM »
Not completely sure what your asking about the governor but if it is about stripping the governor assembly for painting then yes it can be done just take lots of pics and as a part comes off lay it down in order so you have a record as to how and what order it goes back together.
Never knew that about the springs either. It is good to learn new things each day but my problem is remembering them.
What do you plan to do as far as the painting?  Bare metal then depending on the paint an under coat/ primer then top coat/s. Remember that there are parts of the engine that get hot bloody hot like an exhaust manifold and some heads so a suitable paint should be chosen. I have sprayed a few different toys from tractors, mowers and stationary engines. I have used colours suitably matched to original colour from engine enamels to using 2pac paint. With the 2pack I did use an primer that was the same brand paint as the the 2pac. I have learnt over the years to pic the paint and buy it as a system undercoat/primer then top coat even their thinners if required. By doing this you will have far less chances of a problem. I have read a few times that people used a primer/undercoat of one brand and a different brand top coat and had all sorts of issues from rejection to crinkling.
Engine enamel did a great job on the engine of the David Brown Cropmaster tractor and then used 2pac on the rest of the tractor. Not one person has picked up on the slight colour difference. I used engine enamel on an air cooled mower and it is fine on the barrel but a failure on the head as it got too hot for the rating on the paint. There are extreme high temp engine enamels but I have not used them and a brother in law bought a can of that extreme high temp stuff to spray his headers on a V8 restoration but the car is not assembled as yet so not tested that result.
Like so many things, preparation is the key to a good finish as well as weather. We get a lot of humidity during mid to late Spring and onto Summer so don't spray in those conditions as humidity bubbles will appear in a while down the track.

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Engines / Re: Engine identification
« on: May 18, 2021, 12:26:25 PM »
That sounds familiar.

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Engines / Re: Engine identification
« on: May 18, 2021, 05:56:10 AM »
I am not able to help you with the details but somewhere either on this site or in Google has the details for dating the Lister engines. I dont know when they crossed over the dating system but after a certain date they had to use a different system because it would be confused with the real old engines.
While waiting do a Google search for Lister engine dating you might be surprised of the outcome.
Sounds like you have done a lot of research already so well done on that.
Cheers John.

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Engines / Re: lister d trolley
« on: May 16, 2021, 07:00:41 AM »
Sorry I have not seen an originally trolley before but when I make them for my different engines I make sure they are long enough and wide enough to be stable and then centralise the engine on the rails of the trolley so that a crank handle can be safely swung and that the steering will not foul with the engine.

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Engines / Re: Dismantling Lister D Governor mechanism
« on: May 15, 2021, 06:36:28 AM »
I have no experience in this governor either but it is similar to others I have played with. Always the most important thing to do is to take a pic at every stage of dismantling this makes it easy to assemble. Hopefully you have not moved the adjustment of the linkage set up as it would have been close to being correct.
I would be a bit suspicious of the mismatched spring too but it just might run as they are. Not sure what part of the planet you are in but I would find a local parts supplier or a pair of new springs similar to what you have and fit them. Often I find replacement springs at the local hardware here, I measure the overall length and the thickness of the spring and count the coils too. Springs are cheap to buy so consider replacing them.

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Engines / Re: Museum Lister D problems
« on: May 09, 2021, 12:44:03 PM »
That is my thoughts too Mike but I am always open to learn something new. At my age I should know everything but ask my wife she doesn't realise that at all.

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Engines / Re: Museum Lister D problems
« on: May 07, 2021, 06:51:02 AM »
It will be an interesting read if you can find it. Injecting water as far as I know and understand, and this depends on how much you introduce before blowing the top off the piston, The water turns to steam and that is what loosens the carbon and it then exits through the exhaust.
I have heard of other methods used to de-glaze a bore but they are so far out of left field that it would do more damage than leaving it as is.

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Engines / Re: Museum Lister D problems
« on: May 06, 2021, 07:11:33 AM »
Very good advise with the cleaning and 'polishing' of the points and to drag a piece of clean cardboard through does work well but I just spray either over them and let that evaporate. If you do this method give it a few minutes to evaporate or you will discover that it is flammable, dont ask how I know!
Yes honing the bore or even roughing it up using some wet n dry paper will help but do not rub it up and down only around in circumference of the bore but if the engine has not run for a while big chances it just needs a good run first to loosen up the rings as they can get stuck by the carbon build up and a good run under load tends to free that issue up in most cases.

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