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Listeroid Engines / Re: Pictures of my trailer
« on: July 22, 2013, 01:57:40 AM »
Does anyone have copies of these trailer pictures? I would like to see them but for some reason the link does not work.
Thanks,
Jim

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Lister Based Generators / Re: Concrete Pad for Listeroid 10/1
« on: July 21, 2013, 12:40:01 PM »
Hello To All,

I think that I found a good trailer design. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJLYlmWD828My main concern is vibration but this example looks vibration free.
Any advice about how to make a steady and portable generator trailer would be highly appreciated.

Thanks,

Jim

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Lister Based Generators / Re: Concrete Pad for Listeroid 10/1
« on: July 21, 2013, 11:55:49 AM »
Thank you Horsepoor,
I will let you know how it goes.
Jim

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Things I want to Buy / Powerline Listeroid 10/1 Exhaust Manifold
« on: July 20, 2013, 09:49:39 PM »
Hello,

Does anyone have an exhaust manifold for a Powerline 10/1 that they would like to sell?

Thanks,
Jim

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Lister Based Generators / Re: Concrete Pad for Listeroid 10/1
« on: July 20, 2013, 06:04:51 PM »
Listerational,

Rocketboy is my neighbor and I copied his design with some improvements. I welded my I-Beams directly to the steel nursey cart frame, this significantly lowered the center of gravity. This cart is rated for 2000 lbs but could easily hold more. IIRC Bob filled his tires with fluid to dampen what little vibration was left after the Mr X balance method.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToXLQTXQ3qI&list=UUQmE6WsFaAbJhjrIL6WlG_A

If you build one, plan on a Grundfos water pump, hunt around on ebay, should cost around $65, although extremely reliable and we never had one fail, buy a spare pump. Three speed pump, run at the lowerest / slowest setting.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-2-GRUNDFOS-BRUTE-UP1542F-CIRCULATORS-w-flanges-/360679876160?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53fa322640

Think through your radiator mount carefully to reduce vibration. If I did mine over, I would probably build a box frame over the unit like XYZer created for this twins. It is nice to be able to move this unit over to a friend or relatives house after a power outage.
Bruce

Hello Bruce,
I looked at the youtube video and I like it. I can't seem to find XYZer's box frame though. Would you please tell me where I could locate it?
Thanks.
Jim

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Lister Based Generators / Re: Concrete Pad for Listeroid 10/1
« on: July 20, 2013, 05:46:05 PM »
I believe that works perfectly. With my 10/1 plus 7.5kw st and then framing I would have to use 2 x 8s.

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Lister Based Generators / Re: Concrete Pad for Listeroid 10/1
« on: July 20, 2013, 12:54:18 PM »
Listerational,

Rocketboy is my neighbor and I copied his design with some improvements. I welded my I-Beams directly to the steel nursey cart frame, this significantly lowered the center of gravity. This cart is rated for 2000 lbs but could easily hold more. IIRC Bob filled his tires with fluid to dampen what little vibration was left after the Mr X balance method.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToXLQTXQ3qI&list=UUQmE6WsFaAbJhjrIL6WlG_A

If you build one, plan on a Grundfos water pump, hunt around on ebay, should cost around $65, although extremely reliable and we never had one fail, buy a spare pump. Three speed pump, run at the lowerest / slowest setting.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-2-GRUNDFOS-BRUTE-UP1542F-CIRCULATORS-w-flanges-/360679876160?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item53fa322640

Think through your radiator mount carefully to reduce vibration. If I did mine over, I would probably build a box frame over the unit like XYZer created for this twins. It is nice to be able to move this unit over to a friend or relatives house after a power outage.

Bruce

Thanks for the help Bruce,
This forum has been great.
I will definitely look into the nursery cart frame for my 1500LB 10/1.
I had never considered a water pump but a little positive coolant flow can't hurt.
I am going to check out XYZer's box frame right now.
Best To All

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Lister Based Generators / Re: Concrete Pad for Listeroid 10/1
« on: July 20, 2013, 12:38:16 PM »
To lift the engine I use a folding cherry picker and place some planks in front of the slab as a ramp. The generator can be lifted by hand. I've never needed to do anything on that side of the engine since there's almost nothing on that side of it.

Hello Tom,
Thank you for sharing your generator info with me.
You never have to remove the flywheel for balancing purposes?
Thank You,

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Lister Based Generators / Re: Concrete Pad for Listeroid 10/1
« on: July 20, 2013, 12:35:58 PM »


My shed was built with 2x6 roof rafters, and a hole bored through it, for a 2" galvi pipe as a hoist point. It runs about 10' of the 12' shed.  Easily holds the entire 6/1 with mounting frame and alternator (5KW)

Amazing,
Approximately 2.5" holes drilled through 2 x 6 rafters and then a 2" piece of galvanized pipe slid through to raise your assembly.
What do you think your assembly weighs?
Thanks,

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Lister Based Generators / Re: Concrete Pad for Listeroid 10/1
« on: July 19, 2013, 03:19:27 AM »
Hello,

I really appreciate all of the great advice that I have been receiving from the folks on this forum.
I found this video on youtube of a 6/1 mounted on a trailer. It looks stable and light enough to pull with a riding lawnmower. Of course my 10/1 would be heavier but this would let me pull it into garage for repairs. Do you think that If I balance it properly I can use a trailer like this one? If so can I pull all 1500LBS of it plus the weight of the trailer with a riding lawnmower?

Thanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=YGmfeNMqYVk&NR=1

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Things I want to Buy / Powerline Listeroid 10/1 manuals
« on: July 19, 2013, 02:57:12 AM »
Hello,

I just purchased a Powerline Listeroid 10/1 with a 7.5kw ST head. Can anyone recommend to me where I may purchase manuals for this engine and type generator?
I have just ordered the Utterpower CD but presume that I should have a set of manuals for this specific engine.

Thanks,


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Lister Based Generators / Re: Concrete Pad for Listeroid 10/1
« on: July 19, 2013, 02:46:01 AM »
Good setup. Do you ever have to work on the left side of the engine? Do you ever have to raise the generator? If so do you have a means for raising it?
 I am deciding where to make the new home for my Powerline 10/1. Right now I've got my eye on a 7' section of outside garage wall that I can close in to an 8' X 7' building. It might be kinda tight but it's a convenient spot right next to the front of the garage.

Thank you.

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Lister Based Generators / Re: Concrete Pad for Listeroid 10/1
« on: July 18, 2013, 09:54:05 PM »
Here's a pic of my engine room. The concrete block was cast separate into the slab floor and is about 12" deep below the floor.



That's alot of concrete. I see your generator is nice and close to the wall on the left. Do you mind if I ask how many inches that is? Has that distance proven to be a comfortable distance for you? I like the muffler going underground. May ask what the total length is? Is the exhaust coming out at the end of the muffler still hot?

Thanks for the help.

Jim

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Lister Based Generators / Re: Concrete Pad for Listeroid 10/1
« on: July 14, 2013, 08:10:38 PM »
Thanks for the math correction. I still like the I-Beam idea now.

A balanced engine should be my goal whatever I do.

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Lister Based Generators / Re: Concrete Pad for Listeroid 10/1
« on: July 14, 2013, 07:48:50 PM »
I have been reading the responses over at Smokstak as well and if it were me I would weld an I-beam skid for the engine and genny and just place it on compacted limestone screenings. Seems to work great at Coolspring Power Museum as they have most of their engines set up like that and they are pros. You reatain your portability and can even load the unit onto a trailer to use it in a different location in an emergency. Think ahead and incorporate lifting slots/shackles and eye bolts for moving/winching and you are in business.

Oh how I like this idea, thanks. I like the portability feature. I believe that it is already on some sort of a skid. I guess it would more accurately be described as a frame.  Here is the link to the thread
I will check the I-Beam designs at that website.

Jim

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