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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: My CS 6/1 "baby's"
« on: July 15, 2014, 12:44:57 PM »
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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: My CS 6/1 "baby's"
« on: July 13, 2014, 08:00:26 PM »
Yep Bruce,
On a stationary base such as yours I probibly would not use metal either.
But in a boat the hull will flex just a bit so I think the metal will spread the load
so the engine will not "set" as much from corner to corner.
I spent a day or 2 working on/being near boats. I never claimed to be an expert
but have been involved with several repair/rebuild/repower jobs and I just know
how I would do it.
I would probably use aluminum. Not for the weight but because I hate rust.
In a marine environment I doesn't matter. If you are in/near salt water you are going to
have problems. You can live on a boat everyday and everyday something will break, breakdown,
fall apart or rot out. Guarantee it.
Gary
On a stationary base such as yours I probibly would not use metal either.
But in a boat the hull will flex just a bit so I think the metal will spread the load
so the engine will not "set" as much from corner to corner.
I spent a day or 2 working on/being near boats. I never claimed to be an expert
but have been involved with several repair/rebuild/repower jobs and I just know
how I would do it.
I would probably use aluminum. Not for the weight but because I hate rust.
In a marine environment I doesn't matter. If you are in/near salt water you are going to
have problems. You can live on a boat everyday and everyday something will break, breakdown,
fall apart or rot out. Guarantee it.
Gary
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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: My CS 6/1 "baby's"
« on: July 13, 2014, 05:53:10 PM »
I also wanted to add that if I were mounting to wood stringers I would still
set the engine on a metal plate or possibly angle iron mounted to the wood.
This metal would only need to be a little longer the the base of the engine.
It would spread the load.
Lag the metal down and then lag the engine thru it.
set the engine on a metal plate or possibly angle iron mounted to the wood.
This metal would only need to be a little longer the the base of the engine.
It would spread the load.
Lag the metal down and then lag the engine thru it.
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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: My CS 6/1 "baby's"
« on: July 13, 2014, 05:45:47 PM »
6"x4" vertically should be fine. 4"x4" is too small in my opinion.
Remember all forward thrust will need to be handled by the gear box.
It will also need secure mounting.
Doc
Remember all forward thrust will need to be handled by the gear box.
It will also need secure mounting.
Doc
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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: My CS 6/1 "baby's"
« on: July 08, 2014, 11:22:15 PM »
I agree with Bruce.
In a boat hardwood would be the way to go. BIG wood.
The mass of concrete would not be advantageous unless you
want/need the ballast.
In a boat hardwood would be the way to go. BIG wood.
The mass of concrete would not be advantageous unless you
want/need the ballast.
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Listeroid Engines / Re: Houston, we have lift off !
« on: April 21, 2014, 09:00:55 PM »
Hey Honda,
I thought I posted some pics mounted on the frame but maybe not.
I built a nice heavy frame and an adjustable slide for a generator head. I took the
7.5 kw off the single I have and guess I put about 20 hours or so loaded with about 5 kw
load.
I know this is not enough load so rather than ruin the engine I put it aside. She has not been
running for a long while......I really need to get her out and put some time on it.
I have a 15 kw head and that is the one that really should be on the twin. It is currently on my
Changfa and it is what I run for the house when I need it. It has probibly been over a
year since I have needed it. My fear is if I tear them apart to reconfigure THAT is when I'll need it.
Have you done anything with yours yet ?
Gary
I thought I posted some pics mounted on the frame but maybe not.
I built a nice heavy frame and an adjustable slide for a generator head. I took the
7.5 kw off the single I have and guess I put about 20 hours or so loaded with about 5 kw
load.
I know this is not enough load so rather than ruin the engine I put it aside. She has not been
running for a long while......I really need to get her out and put some time on it.
I have a 15 kw head and that is the one that really should be on the twin. It is currently on my
Changfa and it is what I run for the house when I need it. It has probibly been over a
year since I have needed it. My fear is if I tear them apart to reconfigure THAT is when I'll need it.
Have you done anything with yours yet ?
Gary
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Listeroid Engines / Iisteroid running OK ?
« on: April 20, 2014, 07:52:00 PM »
Not much action on the forum as of late. I take that to mean everyone's engines must
be running to perfection !!
Doc
be running to perfection !!
Doc
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Listeroid Engines / Re: Flicker flicker
« on: April 08, 2014, 11:46:29 PM »
Seems I recall BruceM saying that the flicker was reduced when he went from a 5kw to a 3 5kw head
I seem to think he is running a 6/1 at about 650
He uses his all the time I believe
perhaps he will chime in and add his input.
I seem to think he is running a 6/1 at about 650
He uses his all the time I believe
perhaps he will chime in and add his input.
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Listeroid Engines / Re: Flicker flicker
« on: April 07, 2014, 11:21:19 PM »
I was thinking the other day about the fact I have never had any other load on my listers other than a
space heater or 3.
I will go so far as to say that my changfa clone (24 hp--15kw) still has a fair amount of flicker.
I will amble off now ......
space heater or 3.
I will go so far as to say that my changfa clone (24 hp--15kw) still has a fair amount of flicker.
I will amble off now ......
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Lister Market Place (things for Sale) / Re: Lister for sale
« on: April 04, 2014, 08:23:00 PM »
Wonder if he's throwing in the mooring bit in pic 2 with it ??
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General Discussion / Re: Deep cycle batterie
« on: March 26, 2014, 11:58:11 PM »
I am around batterys most days. All types, wet, agm blah, blah.
I work on private yachats and most have good or better chanrgers and one
thing I have learned the last few years is that they (batterys) are all junk.
Batterys used to last 10 years. Not any more. If you get 4 years that is good.
Most of the boats they get changed every 2 to 3 years. Most are in the 50 to 90 ft.
class and ocean going so no risks are taken.
Point being that with a 30 year background in such maters I will state again, they are all junk
at this poimt in time. I keep hope that they will get better but I won't hold my breath.
My rant for the day,
Doc
I work on private yachats and most have good or better chanrgers and one
thing I have learned the last few years is that they (batterys) are all junk.
Batterys used to last 10 years. Not any more. If you get 4 years that is good.
Most of the boats they get changed every 2 to 3 years. Most are in the 50 to 90 ft.
class and ocean going so no risks are taken.
Point being that with a 30 year background in such maters I will state again, they are all junk
at this poimt in time. I keep hope that they will get better but I won't hold my breath.
My rant for the day,
Doc
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General Discussion / reply to the detroit question
« on: March 02, 2014, 06:14:17 PM »
I am around them every day.
Great design.. they all have superchargers....some have turbos..
Run forever...bad on fuel....EXPENSIVE to repair.....'nuf said.
Doc
Great design.. they all have superchargers....some have turbos..
Run forever...bad on fuel....EXPENSIVE to repair.....'nuf said.
Doc
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Listeroid Engines / Re: Cylinder Shims
« on: February 27, 2014, 06:55:20 PM »
38ac,
I could not have said it better !!!
Doc
I could not have said it better !!!
Doc
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Listeroid Engines / Re: Cylinder Shims
« on: February 26, 2014, 09:36:44 PM »
After looking back at the posts I wanted to clairify.
When I said less than .001 I meant on the top of 1 piston from side to side.
I think a few thousands differance in squash from one cylinder to another is fine.
Doc
When I said less than .001 I meant on the top of 1 piston from side to side.
I think a few thousands differance in squash from one cylinder to another is fine.
Doc
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Listeroid Engines / Re: Cylinder Shims
« on: February 26, 2014, 09:25:13 PM »
Steve,
Sorry I got off topic. I was just pointing out to pay close attention to the cam and everyhing associated wih it.
Most of the problems with the twins have been in the cam area.
Also take a look at the valve guides, mine had 2 left heads so I had to swap guides in one head to correct that problem.
With that said I personally would like to see a closer tolerance than .002 differance on the head squash but other people
here would have a better answer. I remember mine came out to less than .001.
That probibly didn't help much but I'm sure others will chime in with more/better info.
Doc
Sorry I got off topic. I was just pointing out to pay close attention to the cam and everyhing associated wih it.
Most of the problems with the twins have been in the cam area.
Also take a look at the valve guides, mine had 2 left heads so I had to swap guides in one head to correct that problem.
With that said I personally would like to see a closer tolerance than .002 differance on the head squash but other people
here would have a better answer. I remember mine came out to less than .001.
That probibly didn't help much but I'm sure others will chime in with more/better info.
Doc