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Listeroid Engines / Re: DES 8/1 generator build
« on: October 16, 2016, 04:51:24 PM »
I forgot to mention one of the things that happens is when the engine is running
the cam gear will slap back and forth between the intake and exhaust lobes.

In other words the gears will be riding on one side during part of the cycle then will slap
over to the other side of the gear until the cam starts to rinse on the next lobe.

I don't know if I explained this perfectly but if you play with it you will see what is going on.



Gary

I'm not that familiar with Gary's engines, do you have an oil pump on yours ?





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Listeroid Engines / Re: DES 8/1 generator build
« on: October 16, 2016, 04:40:59 PM »


Looks good ! It sounds like you pretty much know what you are doing.
A lot of the guys had little or no engine experience and it does help.

The reason we paint the inside is because, as you have found out, the castings may
be porous and leak through.

Keep us updated ! Again, looks good !

Gary




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Listeroid Engines / Re: DES 8/1 generator build
« on: October 16, 2016, 01:12:03 PM »

Don't let me discourage you.
Gary's engines have a reputation for being better units than most.
He also has an excellent track record of standing behind his products.

The thing is to be careful with every step during assembly. And more
importantly is to have fun with it !

Everyone here will be more than happy to give guidance and help in any way we can.

The offset bolt I offered will definitely help with gear adjustment. I have given several away so
it's not like I'm trying to make money from them. If you have a lathe they are easy to make and
we can guide you through the process if you have questions.

Have fun with it. When you see/hear that thing fire up it makes all the stress/worry melt away !!

Gary


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Listeroid Engines / Re: DES 8/1 generator build
« on: October 15, 2016, 10:35:35 PM »

I wanted to add If I remember correctly I spent about a day just setting the crank.

I am the slow and cautious type so I'm sure someone here could do it in an hour or so.

These beasts are just 3rd world junk as compared to the real thing being Genuine Lister.
I have NO experience with real Lister's and in fact have never even seen one that I recall.
The Indian stuff makes a great toy and many here have had great success. Many failures
have been noted as well. Some catastrophic failures will arise with even the best builders/assemblers.

At 62 with a day or 2 of engine work for more years than I care to remember, again I think the
clones are at best a great toy. I just wouldn't want to have to rely on them.

Any engine will be a crap shoot. Some live some don't.  Proper setup with close tolerances are all one can
hope for. These engines are just so plagued with problems that the probably of having problems with them
is almost guaranteed at some point.

I will add that setting the crank can be very rewarding. When you get it installed and the clearances are
correct turning that monster by hand and feeling the crank "float" is a great feeling. The downside is that every
single stage of assembly has to be done in this fashion. You cant trust any of the clearances to be correct.
Every surface has to be checked for parallel /square. Some have noted 1/2 gaskets on side plates and the same
at the bottom of the jug to get things to line up.

Patience and thinking will be your best friend.....

After rambling on, I will amble off.....



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Listeroid Engines / Re: DES 8/1 generator build
« on: October 15, 2016, 09:57:32 PM »

I don't have the clearances handy but will look for them if someone doesn't chime in.

The idler gear setup.....what I found was the gears (crank, idler, cam) are not round. The clearances will change
as the crank turns because the gears are slightly egg shaped. Setup requires some "feel" for the clearance with
a happy medium for the final set.

The offset idler bolt is your best bet.

The side plates holding the crank bearings will be the same thing. Gaskets will be stacked up on both sides
to achieve the proper side clearance. I don't  remember the desired clearance but it is also necessary to get
the crank centered in the block during the process.
The bearing holders are so large that you will see that as you tighten them down things will change.

My twin has brushed bearings instead of rollers. I had to get the side thrust close then tighten the bearing holders
gradually as I turned the crank for the best clearance. As I tightened the holders I could feel the drag on.the bearing/bushing and ended up with the least drag/best feel. Rollers will be a little more forgiving.

I made a stack of side Gaskets then soaked them in oil before installing them. Several thicknesses are necessary.
File folder paper and note book paper and brown paper bags make great gasket material . It will take several attempts to get it correct. I used a magnetic dial indicator for.the final adjustment.





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Listeroid Engines / Re: DES 8/1 generator build
« on: October 15, 2016, 02:59:19 PM »

Oh, did you get the brass/bronze idler gear ?

I will be more than happy to provide you with an offset idler bolt if needed.

Gary



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Listeroid Engines / Re: DES 8/1 generator build
« on: October 15, 2016, 02:56:29 PM »

I will be watching this to see the results.

I am a firm believer in the fiber reinforced concrete.

Those Lister clones will pound the crap out of anything they touch.

I have 2 of them and have spent hours getting them to run smoothly. The single cylinder is
much worse than the twin.

Keep us updated !

Gary


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Listeroid Engines / Re: DES 8/1 generator build
« on: October 11, 2016, 02:31:57 AM »

They did you a favor. The fuel tanks were only good for the trash bin !

Gary


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Listeroid Engines / Re: DES 8/1 generator build
« on: October 10, 2016, 11:13:27 PM »

I believe the plastic pieces go between the fuel tank and the fuel tank straps.




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Generators / Changfa to the rescue
« on: October 08, 2016, 08:37:20 PM »

A friend bought a changfa 1125 and a 15kw st head about the same time
I purchased mine. At that time a Chinese coupling was available that bolted
directly the head and engine that we also got.

He brought his to my shop and we built a nice heavy frame with rollers and he took
it home where it has sat for the last 10 years or so.

Well the hurricane came through. I never lost power but he did.
SOOOOO , today he calls.......think we can get his genset running ?
I have told him for years to get it out and run it, but you know always too busy.

I ride over to his place, drag it out. A trip to his shop for a few feet of wire
and some connectors......presto, bango....30 minutes later......ah, A /C, refrigerator,
lights...all is good....

Amazing, after setting for 10 years it fired right up and runs like a champ !
We set voltage/hz with the kill o watt, I hung for an hour or so making sure
he understood start/stop and what to look out for.

I have always said I hate the noise and banging and clanging of those Changfa
engines but they always seem to run every time they are needed. I probably have
a few hundred hours on mine and it has never let me down.

My thoughts for the day,
Gary

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Listeroid Engines / Hurricane update !
« on: October 07, 2016, 05:15:26 PM »


The storm shifted east early am.
We got no damage and the power didn't go out !
Watching TV it looks like minimal damage in the area.
Haven't checked all the boats yet but the few we have seen so far look fine.

We got lucky on this one.

Thanks for everyone's support,


Gary




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Listeroid Engines / Re: Florida hurricane
« on: October 06, 2016, 10:35:54 PM »

Yep here I am right on the coast right where it's going to hit.
I have a 40x80 round top aircraft hangar in my front yard and that's where
I will be staying.
5 pm now and am still in the house as of now. The house is stick construction so I
don't trust it at all I will probably move to the shop in the next hour or so .

If we make it through I.will probably use the trusty Changfa with the 15kw st head.
If the house doesn't make it I have a 31ft Gulfstream camper in my shop in Kentucky that
I will bring down to Florida to live in while I fight it out with the insurance company.

Wish us luck and if we make it I will keep you all posted.

Gary




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General Discussion / Re: Generator Testing.
« on: September 13, 2016, 07:20:26 PM »
Check all windings to ground.
If it's in salt water windings going to ground are a common problem.

What type gen set ?



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Location and pics would help.



Gary




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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Original CAV injector manual online
« on: April 28, 2016, 11:07:36 PM »


Perhaps not quite as good as that billion  hour engine,  Black Ops character.




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