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Listeroid Engines / Re: My fix for Listeroid light flicker
« on: July 02, 2022, 03:38:55 PM »
After scouring the Web regarding light flicker with generators, I can see that this is a VERY common issue.
As BruceM noted, the majority of these issues are from using LED lights which are very sensitive to tiny changes in supply frequency.
Regarding engine speed and the number of cylinders, I did not seem to matter.
I found many articles where 3600 rpm screamers were still causing lights to flicker. But again, most cases were when the user had LED bulbs installed.
In other examples, 2 and 3 cylinder Kubota's were involved in flickering lights.
So, before you go changing voltage regulators, generator heads, and engine speeds, first try swapping out LED's for standard incandescent bulbs.

Question:
What about appliances such as modern gas furnaces with low voltage DC control boards, or Televisions and Computers?
Are most of these appliances immune to high frequency fluctuations in Hz because they rectify to DC and their DC voltage regulators can smooth out the ripple ?

Note: What I mean by high frequency fluctuations in Hz is the frequency bouncing between say 58hz and 61hz  5 times per second due to 650 rpm Lister power strokes.
          Perhaps enough to mess up an LED, but does it matter to appliances with DC control boards?



 

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Valve stem oil usage?
« on: July 02, 2022, 03:27:01 PM »

Great explanation and fixes 38ac.
I had no idea those issues existed.

cheers,
veggie

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Generators / Re: Changfa and ST head to the rescue once more
« on: June 18, 2022, 06:47:43 PM »
38ac,

a few questions please...

Any flickering lights from the ST head?

What speed are you running the engine at?

Can you run internet and television direct from an ST head?

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Generators / Re: Changfa and ST head to the rescue once more
« on: June 18, 2022, 04:41:55 PM »
Good story 38ac, thanks!
Sometimes we wonder why we buy these things.
Looking at them, sitting over in a corner with dust and spider webs collecting. For a few years.
THEN !!!  ... when the sh*t hits the fan, ... we are happy that we have them.  ;D

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THIS UNIT IS STILL AVAILABLE

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Everything else / Re: Easy PV water heating
« on: May 29, 2022, 04:00:22 PM »

While I may not venture down the pulsed DC path because of my lack of electronic skills and inability to build circuits from schematics, I did find the concept very interesting.
The author does state that resistive loads are best suited to the pulsed DC. Inductive applications do not work. That's where the cheap square wave inverters are used.
He tested square wave and sine wave inverters on several appliances and concluded that there was nothing to be gained by going with the more expensive sine units.
The test results are documented the book.
The book I noted above advocates pulsed DC and includes schematics/circuit diagrams to build small (up to 800 watt) modules for powering DC loads
While not an engineering manual per say, it it more about the author's journey to bring Solar DC power to a village in Africa. However the second half of the book does get more technical where schematics and charts are discussed along with the theory and application.
https://www.amazon.com/Take-Back-Power-Marvin-Motsenbocker/dp/B08P2C6HB4/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3BCV82L13YWEU&keywords=take+back+the+power&qid=1653836393&s=books&sprefix=take+back+the+power%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C99&sr=1-1
Paperback. $25

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Everything else / Re: Easy PV water heating
« on: May 28, 2022, 07:33:26 PM »
That's interesting Bruce.
There certainly is a simplicity and elegance to DC home grid systems.
In the book I noted above, the author runs many appliances (laptop, lighting, etc) on 120 VDC without modifications. No inverter.
Many of today's appliance power adapters and chargers can rectify AC and/or handle 100 to 250 volts DC. Of course one must investigate the appliance before plugging in, to be sure that the power adapter does not use a transformer.
For the food freezers and such he uses cheap small dedicated square wave inverters at each location.
After years of use, no issues

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Everything else / Re: Easy PV water heating
« on: May 28, 2022, 02:54:00 PM »


I see some DIY installers using Insulated Gate Bipolar Transistor or IGBT Transistor relays.
Are these inherently better for switching higher amperage DC (say 50 amps) ?

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Everything else / Re: Easy PV water heating
« on: May 28, 2022, 02:39:35 PM »
In his book "Take back the power", the author puts forth a case for switching to a full DC grid.
Partly as a solution for to coming social issues and energy scarcity, but also as a solution for off-grid and personal grids.
One interesting project he describes (along with circuit diagrams for self-builders) is a unit which takes direct PV power and converts it to high frequency pulsed DC.
When DC is pulsed at frequencies above 120 hz, the sparking at contact points is virtually eliminated. (Less than AC at 60 hz).
He points out that this allows the direct connection of PV panels to a water tank heating element while keeping the original water tank temperature switches in the circuit.
He wires his panels in series to get ~120 volts, then passes the power through his PWM DC unit, then on to the hot water heater. (120 volt heating element)

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Everything else / Re: Easy PV water heating
« on: May 24, 2022, 12:04:34 AM »

Bruce,

I have several of those DC-DC relays ranging from 25 to 100 amps.
I have been reluctant to use them in any critical service because they only cost $12  ???
What do you think about grossly over sizing them?
For example, if there is a solar panel supply which max's out at 25 amps, then use the 100 amp SSR for switching the element load off when target temperature is achieved.
Do you think this would give the inexpensive SSR a fighting chance at staying alive more than a few months.
(I would also recommend to everyone to use the appropriate heat sink)

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 Given the current conditions regarding world energy, the Alternative Fuels section may become a bit busier soon.
So I suggest wee keep it  ;)

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Do you still have that frame that you were using for your 6-1 and ST-5?
Robert

No, it sold with the engine

cheers

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Everything else / Re: What engine?
« on: May 17, 2022, 11:36:23 PM »
Is that Chinese symbols of the valve cover ?
See if you can scrub away the rust.

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Lister Based Generators / Re: 6/1 driving ST clone 260 VAC
« on: May 17, 2022, 11:33:15 PM »

If you want to run the lister at 650 rpm (and the ST at 1800 rpm), you need a 2.77:1 ratio belt drive.
That would give you the correct voltage.
So if you have 23" flywheels, your generator should have an 8.3" pulley.
(Assuming you are driving the generator using a belt around the flywheel)

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Listeroid Engines / Re: My fix for Listeroid light flicker
« on: May 15, 2022, 01:10:00 AM »

Interesting Bruce,

$1000 for a 100 AMP 24 volt LFP ( or $2000 for 200 amps comparable to my current setup)

To replace my four 225 amp lead acid deep cycles, the total cost would be $800.

A huge price difference for 200 amp batteries.

Granted, a proper analysis would also include expected cycles over the life of both packs.

veggie

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