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Waste Vegetable Oil / Re: waste oil use over view.
« on: April 18, 2017, 10:37:06 PM »
Thanks for the write up Glort. Very interesting.
One point to make about diesel and WVO...
Different geographies dictate varied procedures. You mentioned that there is no need to start/stop on diesel. That my work fine in OZ but here in Canada and the northern USA it's quite different. If you forget to switch back to diesel before shutting down, a person can get stuck with plugged fuel lines when the nights dip to zero C.
The WVO in fuel filters can turn to 80 weight gear oil in cold weather.    ;D

I know of a few fellows who dare to run WVO in the early spring and late autumn here in the great north country, but very few people do it. And they suffer the consequences when they forget to switch back to diesel before parking for the night.

cheers mate !
Veggie

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Everything else / Re: Blasphemy..... Solar power.
« on: March 12, 2017, 10:02:33 PM »
For anyone interested, here is a good tutorial on solar H2O drainback systems.
Commonly confused with solar H2O "draindown" systems. (There is a difference)

Drain back = GOOD
Drain down = BAD

Helpful design and installation tips for drainback systems:
http://www.uvm.edu/~gflomenh/CDAE106/readings/sdhw86.pdf

...and why drain down systems are problematic (are recommended against)
http://www.sunnyhotwater.com/draindown.html

Terminology is important in this instance because I found several sites on the web that were erroneously calling a drainback system by the frowned upon name of draindown system.  :-\

cheers,
Veggie

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Everything else / Re: Blasphemy..... Solar power.
« on: March 12, 2017, 09:42:39 PM »

BruceM,

Sorry I missed your comment above regarding Drainback systems and very cold climates.
I have read several sources that recommend against it if the snowfall is high in the region and temps stay below -15C for extended periods.

One is in my book "Solar Water Heating" by Bob Ramlow (A Mother Earth News Publication)

Here is another example..
http://shop.latitude51solar.ca/Closed-Loop-versus-Drain-Back-s/97.htm
See the very last paragraph.

The reasoning seems to be that if the pump were to stay on (circulating) due to a switch or controller failure, then the coolant would freeze in the collector during the night and and possibly split the piping.

The issue I have with this reasoning in that there could be additional safeguards put into the system such as using "DowFrost" glycol or propelene glycol mixed in a ratio to give -40 degF protection.
Also, a flow detection device could be added to test if flow is occurring when incoming liquid is cooler than the interior.
(These additions do add some complexity to an otherwise simple system.)

For simplicity, I do prefer the drainback type system and I may still pursue it using some additional safety features.

PS: I scored a 50 gallon solar hot water tank !
It has two internal coils for heat exchange and also a heating element for emergency backup which can be powered by generator or wind turbine or PV panels.
It should make a good heat reservoir.

cheers,
Veggie

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Everything else / Re: Blasphemy..... Solar power.
« on: March 02, 2017, 02:42:16 PM »
Carlb,

Thats a really nice system you put on the shed.
I have 3 spare evacuated tube panels that need a home and heating my small barn would be a perfect application.
The wall to which I would mount the panels faces due south so that would be a great location.
In my part of the world we can get -35C temps so drainback systems are not used here. Gylcol circulation and differential temp controllers with a small circ pump connecting the system to a buffer tank and wall radiators is what I have in mind.

Carl, how do you dump your heat in summer.?
My plan is to tarp cover the panels. or...push the heat to an external radiator mounted on the outside wall.

Veggie

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Engines / Re: Repairing a cracked Cylinder.
« on: February 08, 2017, 02:37:00 PM »
Glort,

I pulled my little air cooled diesel off the shelf and poked around.
You are right ! The cylinder in this unit is removable. I did not notice this before because the paint covers the joint so nicely at the base of the cylinder and is hardly visible when the air cowling is installed. Thats good news for you. And the prices you found are just fine too. ;)

Regarding the import of a few engines, ... I did that several years ago. I brought in various Changfa style units ranging in size from these air cooled 165's up to the larger R195 water cooled jobs. A total of 15. They all sold without much trouble. Mostly to people like us who wanted to make their own power for emergency or off grid use.
I met a lot of like minded people through that project.

Veggie

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Engines / Re: Repairing a cracked Cylinder.
« on: February 08, 2017, 01:59:13 AM »
 Glort,

I have a little 165 air cooled unit like yours. Unfortunately I think you are pooched when it comes to a repair.
If you can find a liner, the cost of parts + machine shop labor +  freight will probably exceed the cost of a new engine.
As you and I know, a whole new cylinder/liner assy cannot be purchased because our cylinders are integrally cast with the crankcase.
Hard luck mate.

Veggie

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Listeroid Engines / Re: Adjusting the governor
« on: February 01, 2017, 10:40:04 PM »

Yep, mine had issues at the top part of the linkage as well.
Alignment problems that had to be machined.
Too bad they come like this from the factory. After making thousands of engines, they still can't make a quality product.
I suppose poor quality is easier to mass produce than good quality  ;)

Veggie

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General Discussion / Ice Storm and outages
« on: January 29, 2017, 01:06:46 AM »

The Ice Storm in the Maritimes of Canada has knocked out power to 54,000 homes and killed several people.
Good luck to any members who are weathering this storm.   ;)

Veggie

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Original Lister Cs Engines / Re: Introduction/ New project/ Questions
« on: January 29, 2017, 01:03:38 AM »

Someone once posted an equivalent set of valve guides that are interchangeable with the Lister guides. Listeroid also have modern counterparts.
Can't remember where I saw it, but there is a readily available set of guides off a more modern engine that will fit.
A cylinder head shop would be able to march them for you (probably with better materials) if they had the dimensions.

Veggie

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Listeroid Engines / Old Lister still working and earning a living
« on: January 12, 2017, 12:29:23 AM »
Stumbled on this video and wanted to share it...
Lovely old Lister engine working relentlessly in a desert field pumping water from a Well.
Beautiful !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWHki7deUJk

Brings on tears,  ;)
Veggie

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Changfa Engines / Re: Why have they fell out of favor??
« on: January 01, 2017, 05:31:41 PM »

I don't think Changfa's fell out of favor. I think people would buy them if only they could get them.
Noisy...yes, but very durable and tough.
I sold a couple of extra units that I had this year. They sold very quickly when I advertised them.

Veggie

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General Discussion / Re: Happy New Year!
« on: December 31, 2016, 08:16:59 PM »

Happy and healthy new year to all.

take care,
Veggie

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Listeroid Engines / Re: 350 rpm 6/1?
« on: December 21, 2016, 04:08:50 PM »
BruceM, thanks for the kind words. ;)

I agree Glort, personal preference has a lot to do with it.
I just love the sound of the engine ticking over at the slower speed. Like a Swiss watch.
And why make more speed/HP than is needed for the application.
As long as the engine is sufficiently loaded to generate enough heat for clean combustion, things should be ok.
I agree that at a certain point damage can be done depending on the engine. Such as...
A] not enough splash lube
B] lugging and pounding of the rod ends due to lack of flywheel inertia

In essence, size the pulleys and engine speed according to your loads.
If I ran the Listeroid at 650 RPM it would only be loaded to ~25%. Not my preferred situation.

veggie

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Seasons greeting to all !



... and to all a good night !    ;D

Veggie

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General Discussion / Re: Advice Needed - Generator Shed Build
« on: December 18, 2016, 08:22:18 PM »
Why don't you just do a balancing job on the beast.... After that, you could probably run it on a channel frame sitting on concrete of  thickness and hardness suitable to carry the weight only..... It makes one hell of a big difference long term, plus its more portable too...
Cheers
Ed

Hi Ed, as mentioned in my opening post, I do not intend to mount the Listeroid in this shed.
The power will most likely come from a Changfa CHP unit. When Changfa bases are placed on flex rubber mounts there is very little vibration and zero "thump".

cheers mate,
Veggie

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