Well, not to get too specific, but I was talking about a certain website that was gone and then came back.  Here's an example.

Ok, let's say you're looking at buying a new car.  You look at their website and see the following: 

Dealer One:  "Don't buy from Dealer A, B, or C because all the cars they sell are trash.  Those dealers sell trash to idiots and they are all a bunch of liars, too."

Dealer Two:  "If you buy from me, I will make sure that you are a satisfied customer.  I keep the following parts in stock (list) and can guarantee delivery within 10 days of your order."

So which dealer would you rather buy from?

That was all I was trying to convey. 

What is it RedGreen says?  "If it doesn't break, you weren't trying!"

Is there enough light in there to see where the oil is going?

Halfnuts

Same thing with a coule motorhomes we had.  Old one had a 275 HP Ford V-10 engine.  Motorhome weighed 14000 lbs all up.  New one has a 275 HP Cummins ISB and weighs 24000 lbs.  Max torque is at 1900 rpm.  Guess which one I'd rather drive up a hill.  The Cummins will out pull the V-10 any day.  They have the same theoretical power, but in order to achieve that power you have to rev the V-10 to a speed that no engine should have to run for any length of time.  Going up hills I felt like I was whipping a puppy.  Just didn't have the heart to do it, so would pull over and take it easy in the slow lane and let the diesel pickkups hauling their long 5th wheel rigs run past me probably 20 mph faster.  The flatter torque curve of the diesel makes it far better for pulling a load than an equivalent horsepower gas engine that only achieves that power at an unsustainable speed.  So I understand what Guy means.  I just think the terminology he uses is inexact, and that's where the frustration comes in.

Guy,

I think there's been some talking at cross purposes.  Most of us on the board probably learned torque/horsepower from a textbook in high school and college physics classes, not from getting grease under our fingernails.  I did that, by the way, but that was after school.

Torque is a force applied at some distance from a point.  No movement involved, no time factor.  It's just twisting an unmoving object.  Take a wrench and twist on a bolt head and you're applying torque to that bolt head.  Once the bolt breaks loose and begins to turn, you can talk about power, because that's torque per unit of time.  It's harder to twist really fast than it is to twist slow because it takes more power to do so. 

All a transmission does is to take the power from an engine and turn the output shaft slowly with a lot of torque, or quickly with less torque.  It trades torque for speed.  The total amount of power is the same in each case because  Horsepower = (torque * RPM)/5252 

You can take a motor and gear it way down and have a whole lot of torque available like on a winch.  Or you can take that same motor and gear it up and have a lot of speed like on a circular saw, but little torque.  The total amount of power is the same in each case.  And I think intuitively that's what you've been trying to say using different examples.

Halfnuts

Firing a few times and then not at all sounds for all the world like air bubbles.  But you swapped the injectors and the SAME cylinder won't light?  If you don't have an air bubble in the pump or injector, then maybe that side of the pump is not building proper pressure.  Try pulling that injector, hook it up to the fuel line, bleed it, and start the engine with the injector spitting into a can.  See if it continues to do so.  If it does, then it's not the pump and it's not an air bubble.  About all that's left is timing and compression, but you say both are OK . . .